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not to mention they are half as criminally violent compared to US Citizens....about 45% less violent if they are undocumented
It has always been about racism. not crime. not drugs.
The crime stats are heavily skewed as undocumented persons are significantly less likely to involve the police.
Large groups of people are pretty predictable. The actual crime rates are probably much closer to the equivalent crime rates of the cities and neighborhoods that align to with their own economic status i.e class and poverty are the best predictors of crime rates, not citizenship, or lack thereof.
This isn't an argument for, or against, any immigration policy. It's an argument against using flawed statistics.
Dollar for dollar, hedge fund managers, bankers, CEOs and such like are far more prolific thieves than those in poverty.
(It’s kinda how they got wealthy…)
Yeah, I don't disagree.
But again, that has nothing to do with what's been discussed here.
For starters, this is about violent crime and it's not about the inherent criminality of any group of people.
It's about stats and why this particular statistic is critically flawed, and bogus.
Incorrect, wage theft is the most common committed crime if we're talking about 'counts of crime' instead of just reporting.
Uh....what... incorrect...?
This entire thread was spawned from someone posting a statistic relating to violent crime rates amongst different population groups.
Financial crimes, wage theft, jaywalking, or any other criminal act you can think of, that isn't categorized as a "violent crime", is irrelevant when the discussion is about one specific flawed violent crime statistic....
You right, I lost track
Ok, but putting this from another standpoint, while undocumented folks may be less likely to involve police for crimes committed against them, others are not so disincentivized. If these immigrants were, as the GOP likes to point out, criminals, you would expect higher crime rates reported by citizens. However, that’s not the case, and the crime that conservatives care about is only against them. They don’t care about undocumented immigrant crime against other undocumented immigrants.