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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Wise people still teach their children (and remind themselves) not to talk to strangers, say "no" if not sure, mind their own business because their attention and energy are not infinite, and trust only family.

You can’t have random numbers call you anymore without you immediately expecting their spam.

You'd be wary of people who are not your neighbors in the Middle Ages. Were you a nobleman, you'd still mostly talk to people you knew since childhood, yours or theirs, and the rare new faces would be people you've heard about since childhood, yours or theirs.

It's not a new danger. Even qualitatively - the change for a villager coming to a big city during the industrial revolution was much more radical.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (7 children)

That’s exactly what I meant when I said:

It’s not a new story. In fact, it’s a very old story.

And you just kinda proved my point. As time has gone on, the great of deception has grown with new technology. This is just the latest iteration. And every new one has expanded the chances/danger exponentially.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What I really meant is that humanity is a self-regulating system. This disturbance will be regulated just as well as those other ones.

The unpleasant thing is that the example I've given involved lots of new power being created, while our disturbance is the opposite - people\forces already having power desperately trying to preserve their relative weight, at the cost of preventing new power being created.

But we will see if they'll succeed. After all, the very reason they are doing this is because they can't create power, and that is because their institutional understanding is lacking, and this in turn means that they are not in fact doing what they think they are. And by forcing those who can create power to the fringe, they are accelerating the tendencies for relief.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think this is the power redistribution you’re implying it is. I’m not actually sure what you mean by that. The power to create truths? To spread propaganda? I can’t think of any other power this tech would redistribute. Would you mind explaining?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't mean anything by that, because I didn't say anything about any redistribution.

If your question is what does this have to do with ability to easily generate fakes - then the power created would be in killing untrusted (as opposed to webs of trust and f2f) web. It's a good thing.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mind explaining what you meant then? I guess I misunderstood your point

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I meant the second sentence)

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh I thought we were having a friendly discussion. I didn’t know we were arguing. My bad, I’ll change my tone

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

We were, I've just answered your question before you asking it, so referred to that

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