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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Some German guy got got for logging into IRC via encrypted wifi, the cops did some war driving and correlated timing of traffic spikes with IRC messages until they had a profile with better hit probability than a DNA match.

The best thing about that? They didn't even need a search warrant as our genius was broadcasting the side-channel to the whole neighbourhood.

[–] Emotet@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sounds interesting, got any links for further reading on that?

I can't quite connect the dots between wifi/internet traffic spikes when IRC is so light on traffic that it's basically background noise and war driving.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

When you send a message, that usually fits into an IP packet. That gets completely encrypted by the wifi, but you know that a data packet approximately that size has been sent at exactly that time. Simultaneously, you watch the IRC channel and see when messages are arriving from your suspect, or someone else types a message and that should correlate with another encrypted wifi package.

The mistake was a) using wifi, exposing the data in the first place and b) not torrenting while you're chatting. That would've obscured the time correlations.

[–] AugustWest@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Laymen with no understanding here. Obviously there were other mistakes, all of which make sense to me on a rudimentary level, but the first mistake you listed was him using wifi? What is the more secure alternative? Or do you just mean sending data directly over a true wifi connection and not using TOR or another medium?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Had he used an ethernet connection, that is, a cable, he would not have broadcasted his traffic to the neighbourhood and police would have needed much more of a clue where he lives (not just "this general area") and also a search warrant.

What's particularly remarkable is that not having wifi at all at home, or only for their phone, is quite common among IT professionals: It's faster, less prone to interference, and in case you mess up some encryption stuff at least you're not broadcasting everything into the whole neighbourhood. All around the better option no paranoia required. But then you have an actual black hat, the type of people who tend to not just wear tinfoil hats but tinfoil underwear, make such a basic OPSEC mistake.

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