Progressive liberals like Bernie Sanders aren’t much different and only marginally better, critiquing “crony capitalism” / “neoliberal capitalism” / “uber-capitalism”, without directly challenging capitalism itself.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Political efficacy, in my opinion, is a better strategy than fruitless idealism.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (23 children)

Reformism keeps not working, as evidenced by the last 45 years of ever-worsening neoliberalism, but liberals will keep trying anyway.

Marxists are not idealists; they are materialists, specifically, dialectical materialists.

It is the liberals who are the idealists.

[–] Funkwonker@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Revolution doesn't exactly have a good history either. If anything, it's shown to be a significantly worse option. It's a pipe dream to believe that a revolutionary party would relinquish political power after gaining it.

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