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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Sailors on the ship then began finding the STINKY network and asking questions about it.

Oh, c’mon. it is trivial to make an SSID “hidden” for any networking tech that you have administrative control over. That way, only those “in the know” will know the SSID name to type in, in order to access said wireless network. It would not be “discoverable” by standard wireless-connectivity gear such as the default wifi interface in mobile phones.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Hidden WiFi networks are not actually hidden in the literal sense. They still broadcast beacons that your wifi chip will see as basically “hidden network beacon lives here”. Your network connect interface just decides not to show you a list with a bunch of useless “(hidden)” entries you can’t do anything with.

Also, when a new client wants to connect to the hidden network, the first thing it does is broadcast an unencrypted message saying “HEY, I’M LOOKING FOR [hidden network name]” so it’s completely trivial to unveil the name of hidden networks given enough time.

[–] Thetimefarm@lemm.ee 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it'd be more for obfuscation than completely hiding it. As long as there are other hidden networks on the ship you just name it something generic that blends in. I mean this whole thing is a really stupid idea, but naming it something like "COM.NAB_ISO:4133" would draw less attention.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s absolutely mind-boggling that the existing WiFi infrastructure on the military ship didn’t trigger any alarms. This is the kind of thing that you can get from “pro-sumer” grade hardware/software like Ubiquiti, let alone corporate-grade or military-grade stuff. The feature is called “Rogue Access Point Detection” and it’s built into literally every WiFi solution on the market. Like, your local library is analyzing this stuff it’s that basic.

Edit: To more directly address your point, the name shouldn’t matter at all. Rogue AP detection doesn’t give a shit about the display names of things, it looks at the actual hardware addresses and compares them to known things that are owned by your network.

[–] antimongo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yup, I did some on-campus IT work while I was in college and it was super trivial to detect when people would have their own networks in the dorms

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] jmf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At mine it was not. Hotspots and the like that stayed up for too long were flagged and action was taken to have them disabled and the student reprimanded.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Well, I can understand that APs wouldn't be allowed since having lots of APs in one space makes it worse for everyone.

Wired should be allowed though.

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