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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (37 children)

We're always going to end up with people who can manipulate a crowd being in charge. We're stupid like that.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (36 children)

This is what I always find amusing about the Communist argument.

Like, the elected politicians and bureaucracy can't be trusted enough to regulate industry under capitalism so we'll centralize things and then trust them to regulate industry under Communism?

Edit: whoof, should've thought about human nature when I dared to criticize communism. Almost lime there is another lesson somehwere there.

so, it's the goddamn weekend. How does everyone have so much free time this late on a Saturday? I'll do my best to get back to y'all on a dirty capitalist's time slot.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

I feel like you're ignoring a lot of background, but let's run with your argument. Let's assume that we have to have some elected politicians and some appointed or elected bureaucrats, and either we should try to have a capitalist system or a communist system of some kind.

Let's try to keep things as equal as possible, knowing that we really can't, but just for the sake of argument. Which system is more likely to be corrupted? Remember, the express goal of capitalism is to throw wealth at the capitalists. If the regular person gets screwed, that's not corruption, that's a feature of the system... Oh, wait a second, I guess we already have an answer to our hypothetical, don't we.

But you did raise a good point. Any government, if it's to function somewhat reasonably, needs to be one that has a lot of transparency, oversight, and accountability. If you don't have those, it doesn't matter how you start off because it's going to end badly. So I agree with you, we shouldn't be trusting politicians.

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