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so a common claim I see made is that arch is up to date than Debian but harder to maintain and easier to break. Is there a good sort of middle ground distro between the reliability of Debian and the up-to-date packages of arch?

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I would say Tumblewees is better than traditional Fedora.

But the lack of desktops, variants, adoption, as well as the lack of being able to reset a system, makes it less stable than Fedora Atomic Desktops.

Resetting is huge. You can revert to a bit-by-bit copy of the current upstream.

It is not complete at all, but already works as a daily driver. uBlue deals with almost all the edges that are left.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Tbh my main gripe with Tumbleweed is the package manager as someone who likes to use the CLI, the weird naming convention, renames, etc are annoying. Also found some minor annoyances that all put together made me choose Fedora over Tumbleweed. I can see why some people would like it tho.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (7 children)

You can use dnf on OpenSuse, and it actually uses the correct /etc/dnf.repos.d !

zyppers UI is horrible, no idea at what internet speed those animations make sense, not on an even 2,4GHz wifi.

I used QGis as a Fedora Distrobox didnt install the language package, because it installs only the one from the OS. on Tumbleweed all languages were always installed, but it had some issue where no plugins worked or something.

Same with RStudio, which works creat with iucar/cran COPR and the R-CoprManager app that makes it use dnf underneath.

Rstudio should absolutely install them as libs though, into /var/lib. Then the Flatpak could be made working too I guess.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but then why use OpenSUSE instead of just Fedora?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because they have Slowroll and working, automatic BTRFS snapshots.

I have no idea what dnf Fedora is doing, using BTRFS but no snapshots.

[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think fedora does have some automatic snapshots, just not as much as OpenSUSE. Still tho, why not setup better snapshots on Fedora rather than switch package manager and repos altogether on openSUSE?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

No they dont. Just the basic kernel backups, which is pretty little

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