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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (13 children)

I know that conflating Liberals and Conservatives is practically lemmys official pass time, but I have to point out they are not the same.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Liberals and conservatives are more similar than liberals and progressives.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

No, I have a lot of experience in liberal organizations and they are not, despite the memes, closer to conservatism than progressivism. It honestly makes me feel like most people on lemmy have never really worked with liberal groups.

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention, both Liberals and progressives are fine with intervention, only the threshold changea. We want the same things, mostly, but disagree on how to get them.

Conservatives, philosophical Conservatives anyway, won't typically even consider such a thing, and often do not even want the same things as Liberals or progressives.

This both sides same stuff just hurts progressive causes, because it sours mushy people with little to no real philosophy on voting for liberal parties. Those people flip flop back to Conservatives when they get angry and we lose the progress we've made, as is about to happen in Canada.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention,

Okay sounds like you're just describing different labels for liberalism.

Compare these people to a communist who thinks we should literally nationalize and worker-self-manage the relevant sectors of economy and you'll see what people are trying to tell you about how liberals and conservatives are basically the same.

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