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Alaska flight incident reveals another feature Boeing didn’t inform pilots about - Federal investigators said that Boeing didn’t make pilots aware that when a plane rapidly depressurizes, the cockp...::undefined

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 97 points 10 months ago (31 children)

I had thought that since the 2001 hijackings it has been basically impossible to open the cockpit doors during flight, except from the inside. On El Al planes I'd heard it was impossible period, so hijackers couldn't threaten their way in, but US carriers didn't want to do that because it means the cockpit needs its own lavatory, displacing a few passenger seats.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 103 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (20 children)

In the case of an explosive decompression, you can't have that wall trying to resist the pressure difference. It'll blow in a horrible way and probably destroy a ton of circuitry / wiring.

It needs to fail open like this, that design makes sense. The pilots should have been informed though.

An attacker could probably leverage that though to get into the cockpit.

See https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/a-legal-and-moral-question-the-crash-of-turkish-airlines-flight-981-and-the-dc-10-cargo-door-saga-d22f0b9fa689

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (18 children)

If that design is necessary it has presumably always been like that on every pressurized plane ever built. So it shouldn't have been a surprise. But, some vents should be able to equalize the pressure without opening the door.

ISTR hearing that El Al planes had separate entrances for the cockpit and passenger compartment so there was no way to enter or leave the cockpit except on the ground. No door, just a reinforced wall. But maybe that was a post-911 urban legend.

[–] flying_mechanic@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Aircraft maintenance has been doing the negative pressure unlock tests on cockpit doors for decades, its honestly surprising what isn't common knowledge. Like others have said, rapid decompression of only a portion of the aircraft is very bad, and will result in massive structural failure as individual compartments aren't pressure rated and will blow apart. The doors I've had experience with had large panels that would pop out when in a negative pressure event.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Interesting. Now I'm wondering if the bathroom doors also blow out if there is decompression.

[–] flying_mechanic@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Those don't seal well, so probably not

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I think my ass would be having a blow out too if that happened

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