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Interesting how you want me to define terms but haven't defined them yourself.
You haven't defined "the strong" or "the weak" or what you mean by "self-defense."
Maybe start defining your terms first before you demand it of others.
You're shitting me, right?
In this thread where I describe my fucked up back, rating from the VA, my inability to win fistfights, my worry about my wife and daughter defending themselves from men. And you can't figure out what I mean by "strong" and "weak". Bullshit. But fuck it, let's do this.
Both of these are used to describe ones physical prowess in relation to the other. They're relative. Someone "stronger" than me can overpower me through physical means and I would be helpless to defend against it, given no other tools.
I'll just go with the dictionary on this one:
Now feel free to explain what you mean by "take advantage of" in the context of my using a gun to defend myself.
Edit: I just fucking knew I would go as far as to define these well-known words to get nothing in return. You can tell it was going that way this whole exchange.
Sorry, not good enough definitions.
A starving man on death's door manages to break into your home to steal a loaf of bread. You have a gun and see him do it.
Who is the strong one and who is the weak one there? Who is acting in self-defense there?
And I am happy to explain that if you shot and killed the man in that situation, you would be taking advantage of their weakness.
If someone is strong enough to break down my door even when they’re starving, I’m gunning them down and asking questions later.
Like your logic doesn’t add up here at all. “If someone is extremely weak but also strong enough to forcibly enter your home”
Nah
You know there are these things called 'windows' that you can break easily and climb through, yes?
Also, I thought you were done talking to me. Make up your mind.
I repeat my point: if someone is trying to break in my window- I’m shooting first and asking questions later
Which makes them the weak one and your claim of self-defense a spurious one. You don't actually know if you're in danger.
Holy fuck you’re not thinking at all? If someone is breaking into your home, you’re in danger.
Or do you want everyone to be obligated to go over and check on the well being of the person first?
“Hey I know you’re busy breaking into my home for an unknown reason, do you need a hand? Some water? Maybe a tic tac? You know what, let me just get that window for you”
No that’s fucking stupid. You have very very obviously lived an extremely sheltered life where you don’t have to worry about your own protection
Jesus you’re pointlessly obtuse
See, the difference between you and me is that you can't envision "self defense" beyond committing murder in this situation and I can. Many, many other options.