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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Sorry, not good enough definitions.

A starving man on death's door manages to break into your home to steal a loaf of bread. You have a gun and see him do it.

Who is the strong one and who is the weak one there? Who is acting in self-defense there?

And I am happy to explain that if you shot and killed the man in that situation, you would be taking advantage of their weakness.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

If someone is strong enough to break down my door even when they’re starving, I’m gunning them down and asking questions later.

Like your logic doesn’t add up here at all. “If someone is extremely weak but also strong enough to forcibly enter your home”

Nah

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You know there are these things called 'windows' that you can break easily and climb through, yes?

Also, I thought you were done talking to me. Make up your mind.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I repeat my point: if someone is trying to break in my window- I’m shooting first and asking questions later

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which makes them the weak one and your claim of self-defense a spurious one. You don't actually know if you're in danger.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Holy fuck you’re not thinking at all? If someone is breaking into your home, you’re in danger.

Or do you want everyone to be obligated to go over and check on the well being of the person first?

“Hey I know you’re busy breaking into my home for an unknown reason, do you need a hand? Some water? Maybe a tic tac? You know what, let me just get that window for you”

No that’s fucking stupid. You have very very obviously lived an extremely sheltered life where you don’t have to worry about your own protection

Jesus you’re pointlessly obtuse

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

See, the difference between you and me is that you can't envision "self defense" beyond committing murder in this situation and I can. Many, many other options.

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