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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920

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Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”

"But I still want to get paid for it."

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

It’s deterministic. I can exactly duplicate your “art” by typing in the same sentence. You’re not creative, you’re just playing with toys.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That's actually fundamentally untrue, like independent of your opinion, I promise that when people generate an image with a phrase it will be different and is not deterministic ( not in the way you mean ) .

You and I cannot type the same prompt into the same AI generative model and receive the same result, no system works with that level of specificity, by design.

They pretty much all use some form of entropy / noise.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It’s literally as true as it can possibly be. Given the same inputs (including the same seed), a diffusion model will produce exactly the same output every time. It’s deterministic in the most fundamental meaning of the word. That’s why when you share an image on CivitAI people like it when you share your input parameters, so they can duplicate the image. I have recreated the exact same images using models from there.

Humans are not deterministic (at least as far as we know). If I give two people exactly the same prompt, and exactly the same “training data” (show them the same references, I guess), they will never produce the same output. Even if I give the same person the same prompt, they won’t be able to reproduce the same image again.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I do actually believe that everything, including human behavior is deterministic. I also believe there is nothing special about human consciousness or creation tbh

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