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[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago (19 children)

I think the average person gets it right. It's a nice feat to catch the booster and it will save money. But that's a side quest. The main quest of getting an actual load to orbit and beyond is still pretty far away. At least compared with the official time line where they wanted to achieve much more than that three years ago.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Um, no?

The rocket has been to orbit twice now, they've already demonstrated that. They're working on the bonus mission, landing everything and perfecting the hardware to the point where it doesn't need major refurbishment between flights.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 month ago (13 children)

As far as I understood it, SpaceX uses the word "orbit" liberally. If it reaches the hight where an orbit would be possible, that's "being in orbit" for them. In an actual orbit, the rocket would not fall back down again in an hour or so without active breaking. If my understanding is incorrect, I'm happy to be corrected. And even of that was achieved soon, it's still all without demonstrating that the starship could actually carry a load and return it safely. Not even an inexpensive dummy load. All SpaceX is showing in their live feeds are empty cargo holds that fill up with hot gases and fumes during reentry.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not really wrong, but I think you are missing a few things. If you can get your rocket on a ballistic trajectory with a height above the Kármán line (~100km), then going into LEO from there is just a matter of having enough fuel. Nobody doubts that Starship could carry enough fuel to do that.

They haven't bothered doing that in testing yet, because they wouldn't learn anything. Knowing how the heat shield survives reentry is far more important. The upper stage still hasn't been able to come down in a safe, controlled manner yet. Test 4 managed to splash down, but the heat shield took a lot more damage than anybody is comfortable with (if you watch the videos of it, you'll see why it was amazing it survived at all). This one was Test 5, and while the heat shield survived better, the upper stage blew up when it hit the water.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought it blew up because after tipping over the tanks ruptured - a normal result of a rocket tip-over. Am I mistaken?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

It shouldn't rupture a tank just because of a splashdown, no. Even if they're able to chopstick catch the upper stage, or land it like Falcon 9's boosters, a splashdown may be needed in emergencies.

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