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L'année dernière le sujet a été abordés par @AlexisFR@jlai.lu et je souhaite relancé l'idée de dé-fédérer de cette instance.

Je navigue depuis quelque temps sans bloquer la moindre instances question de simuler un peu l'expérience de quelqu'un qui rejoint le fediverse via l'instance jlai.lu.

Les posts qui apparaissent dans le fil et le comportement de la plupart des usagers de cette instance pollue tout simplement l'expérience Lemmy.

Même sans parler de possible liens avec CCP, Kremlin etc... je pense que, à mon humble avis, leur comportement et leur façons de brigader et de diffamer une opinion qui ne diverge que d'à peine d'un poil de leur courant de penser, va sincèrement à l'encontre de l'état d'esprit de notre communauté sur cette instance.

Je me suis opposé sans vraiment me prononcer l'année dernière à une dé-fédération (étant donné qu'ils ne sont pas francophone et que j'aime bien le drama inter-instances de temps temps) mais leurs prises de positions en permanence ahurissantes et (en pesant mes mots au maximum) d'une flagrante dissonance cognitive je dois dire que trop c'est trop.

Je pense sincèrement que malgré le fait nos intéractions soit assez minimes avec cette instance je pense que sur le long terme leur influence est nocive et que, dans l'idée de garder une certaines sérénité pour les personnes et futures personnes qui utiliseront cette instance, qu'il y ai une dé-fédération de cette instance de la notre.

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[–] anansi@jlai.lu 12 points 1 month ago (25 children)

An actually apt analogy would be one of your theater club mate receiving a text advising to leave the theater club because it's full of dubious people, your mate saying "lol no", and you sending a 10 pages pamphlet to the friend sending the text accusing them to be a fascist, completely unprompted.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (24 children)

The person who thinks non-whites are gangstalking them is on the same forum as the person who uses "tanky" as a slur against the only forum which strictly opposes all of the groups currently using tanks. I would ask how you see yourself ideologically, but you aren't making a good case for not being a fascist forum so that definition wouldn't mean much. Look at the company you keep. Who else online is obsessed with tankies and Asian conspiracies? Not the left-wing ones.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 10 points 1 month ago (20 children)

We have no post supporting capitalism. The whole server is critizing capitalism and supporting social and environnemental project.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That is terrific, I'm glad that you are yourself anti-capitalist. I don't think the whole jlai.lu instance is, though, and at least one mod is apparently quite conservative.

[–] anansi@jlai.lu 6 points 1 month ago

If you're talking about me, that's kind of a funny way to see it I guess, albeit pretty dumb and most likely lacking in political history for it to be your guess.

[–] leftascenter@jlai.lu 5 points 1 month ago

The whole instance is not anti capitalistic but many of the most active users are and we have dedicated leftist and pro-tolerance communities. The instance is overtly antifascist, the few doubtful users that posted were kicked out promptly.

The feeling is also anti-authoritarian so tankies wouldn't feel at ease, but I dont think they'd be kicked out unless blatantly promoting imperialist / authoritarian agendas.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, i'm affraid language barriere doesn't help...and there is some part of misunderstanding and french's culture is different 😟

When we talk about PCC or the Kremlin, we are mainly critizing imperialism. We do make a clear line between communism and imperialism.

We also critize France, and our actions to change it is currently repressed by the police. We document it there. I don't read it, it depress me a lot and i have to care about myself.

https://jlai.lu/c/quefaitlapolice?

You can also check those communities :

You can also check @Frirish@jlai.lu posts.

He has expressed his point of view about hexbear but that doesn't represent our opinion until proven otherwise.

The first thing we (anyone, everyone not necessary the mod/admin team) do is talking to people (even modo, admin are included and can be demoted anytime) and pointing out what's wrong.

That's the first thing we did. We asked for source and pointed out it's normal that you would react here.

Then, we ask them to edit their post as a way to apologize.

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