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I'm going to buy my first new TV in years. Even if it's a 'smart' tv we plan to just use our Roku. I've heard that some TVs require you to connect it to the internet before you can even use a Roku device. For privacy reasons I don't want my TV to EVER have access to my wifi. Is anyone aware of how to know what models/brands of TVs allow me to use it without ever connecting the TV itself to wifi?

If necessary I guess I could connect it to my guest network to 'activate' the TV, set up the Roku to connect to my private network, then change the password to the guest network.

Would rather just have a TV that doesn't even 'phone home' once.

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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 81 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I have a pair of LG tvs that didn’t require any activation. Might wanna take a look at those?

Definitely stay away from Samsung. All my encounters with Samsung have required some type of sign up-activation process.

I’ve seen some users here also recommend checking out monitors as tvs but I’m not well versed in that area.

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (9 children)

While I overall like my lg tv they have some shitty things from both a tech perspective (can’t play or pass through dts audio bc of licensing bullshit though this may not be the case on newer models) and an anti consumer perspective (data collection and ads)

On the first point you can circumvent by using e-arc and avr

On the second point you have to dig through settings and make sure sales of your personal data is not enabled (it is by default and can be re-enabled with updates)

You can also block the following in your router/dns:

us.ad.lgsmartad.com us.info.lgsmartad.com ngfts.lge.com lgad.cjpowercast.com edgesuite.net us.rdx2.lgtvsdp.com us.info.lgsmartad.com us.ibs.lgappstv.com us.lgtvsdp.com ad.lgappstv.com smartshare.lgtvsdp.com ibis.lgappstv.com us.ad.lgsmartad.com lgad.cjpowercast.com.edgesuite.net ngfts.lge.com yumenetworks.com smartclip.net smartclip.com

snu.lge.com su.lge.com lgtvonline.lge.com

This will block the ads in the os as well as hamper their data collection, somewhat. The last three specifically will also block updates.

You can also root webos in some scenarios which gives you certain options to block ads in YouTube and such

On one hand don’t support TVs that do this anti consumer bullshit. On the other hand good luck buying a tv in 2024 that doesn’t pull some kind of anti consumer bullshit? Any tv with google/android tv, Roku, etc built in is just as bad or worse. Most if not all manufacturers engage in OS level data collection.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Alternative perspective: Buy the most intrusive, ad-subsidized set you can find and disconnect/block it so you get all of the benefit and none of the privacy invasion?

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ensure it works offline before buying would be my only advice here. Also don’t be surprised if it still has ads, I know android tv can have ads without connecting to the internet because it’ll have them cached from a fresh install. Adblocking on android tv is a pain because the caching of ad content can make you think it’s not working

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ugh. This is why we can’t have nice things.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can, they just cost more.

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

This isn’t really true, they don’t write a separate os for the fancier TVs. The $5000 83” oled still does all this. It’s not as bad as the $75 37” lcd that’s heavily subsidized but that’s only partially because of less intrusive ads. The ads are still there, just not as much, the data collection is still there, and the tv is just runs smoother because the hardware is generally (a bit) more powerful

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think that even the most expensive TVs have the same OS and data collection

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Maybe, but no ads though. I guarantee Bill Gates does not see ads on his TV.

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