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[–] fulg@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (16 children)

They became a poster child for why you should never “start over from scratch” even if your current codebase is awful. Because when you do that your competitors keep going, then they have years on your now stale product. Netscape lost all on their own…

Also: selling a browser? Man, the 90’s where wild.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 67 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

That's rather simplifying history and not the main reason Netscape failed.

Netscape lost because Microsoft used it's dominant monopoly position to bundle Internet Explorer with windows. By 1999 the writing was already on the wall - IE had already overtaken Netscape market share and was growing rapidly.

The Mozilla project and code base change was a gamble to try and fix the problems. When Microsoft released IE6 2001 they didn't bother releasing another major version for 6 years as they were so dominant.

So while the code base change was arguably mishandled, at worst it accelerated the decline. Instead the whole story is a poster child for how monopoloes can be used to destroy competition. The anti trust actions in the US and EU came too late for Netscape.

Ironically Microsoft was the receiving end of the same treatment when Google started pushing Chrome via it's own monopoly in search. They made a better product than the incumbent but they pushed it hard via their website that everyone uses.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Chrome was also shoved down user's throats by being bundled with all kinds of software. When you downloaded programs from places like SourceForge, Softonic and similar, your download (when you installed it) had "Install Chrome Browser" already checked. If you forgot to uncheck the box, you ended up having to uninstall Chrome. It was the most annoying thing ever.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Huh, weirdly I don't remember that. I remember having to uncheck a whole bunch of check boxes for browser extensions, toolbars, WinZip pro, etc. But I didn't remember that chrome was one of those. I'm sure you're right though.

I don't think chrome was on sourceforge's list-of-malware they stuffed everything in, but it was bundled with a lot of legitimate software.

Google bought a lot of their marketshare, and did so with any method that resulted in an install, including bundled installer crap.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 2 points 4 weeks ago

I always assumed it said chrome but was just a virus so I was always super paranoid when installing things

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