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[–] Allero@lemmy.today -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (71 children)

So, basically it's enough to say "Fuck Russia, Fuck Russians" here and it gains you massive support.

Seriously?

First, how does this fuck Russia the state?

Second, what everyday Russians have to do with it? What justifies sneaking in hate messages to a diverse ethnic group with no single ideology?

Saying "Fuck Russians" is about the same as "Fuck Jews" because Israel has done bad things. This is not okay.

[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Our countries welcome Ukrainian refugees.

I am friends with Russians in my country.

Russiana living here sneak benefits by saying they are Ukrainians.

The majority of Russians living here voted for Putin polls have shown.

Some Russians denounce our media and only watch Russian state TV.

So if they can't adapt after beeing here for decades I tend to believe that the Russian common sense differs immensly from ours. And therefore I agree with this propaganda: Fuck Russia.

They talk about eachother on the highest level but Russian citizens - here or in Russia - do not form loud critique. If my Brother was jailed for critique I would apread the word in my circles who would spread the word.... WE IN THE WEST WOULD MAKE US HEARD.

Russians benefiting from the lower prices just agree with their government and apparently do not care about their country killing innocent people.

So fuck Russians as well.

  • Obviously not every Russian is stupid or bad. But if they want to get out of their war, they have to speak up. This is exactly what they demand from other countries with inner conflicts.
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The advice would be relevant a bit ealier, around the Bolotnaya protests.

But now protesting in Russia is nothing short of suicidal. You won't make yourself heard - much quicker, you'll be jailed. Police is constantly on duty near main protest venues, and they act brutal. And this fear mentality permeates many even as they leave, afraid they'll have to return some day.

Right now, it seems like the only thing that would help is a full-scale revolution, but people are passivized enough through decades of oppression that organizing them is near impossible. Everyone is scared as hell to be the one who comes on the street, finds out they are alone and next moment they are taken to police and jailed for years.

Even under those conditions, people did come out to anti-war protests, especially in 2022. Result? Brutal suppression and mass incarceration. So, I hope you can see where this comes from.

[–] 7dev7random7@suppo.fi 1 points 1 month ago

Very saddening.

Given that Russians where the ones who openly shared lists of serial keys online, I wonder why no attacks onto the black velvet around their information system is not attacked then.

Thinking aloud here..

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