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Recently I've dove a little deeper into the Fediverse. I began with Mastodon like many others and I'm ready to move on. Mastodon as a software in comparison to similar services in the Fediverse like Calckey/Firefish, Friendica, Misskey, etc. just isn't as good and the only thing it has going for it is an established user base and simplicity/lack of feature creep I guess. I've also had major difficulty finding any sort of conversation or getting followers, although that could just be because of me just not being really active on social media in general and being disinterested in discussing the most popular topics like politics.

I've been looking at another microblogging/Twitter type service to switch over to since I just like the concept of the Fediverse (I credit Kbin for being a great 2nd impression) but its been a struggle. It seems like in the microblogging space of the Fediverse, there are just a bunch of different platforms that do the same thing while trying to one up each other in some aspect. I'm not sure if there are large features that separate them besides UI, but this is just how it appears. If there is, please let me know.

This fragmentation is making it difficult to choose a platform, and I can't imagine it'd be any easier for anyone new the Fediverse. Once I choose a platform, I have to choose an instance as well of course. I was going to join calckey.social/firefish.social but I'm a little hesitant now because mastodon.art defederated with it, and I follow multiple accounts from that instance. The drama that always surrounds defederation is a fundamental design flaw in the Fediverse, but I try to choose servers that don't have these issues as I would rather not self-host right now. The Mastodon instance I have an account on has a great admin that lets the users decide when it came to a large move such as defederating with Threads.

I'm really beginning to see how the Fediverse can be complicated for new users, even if they understand the underlying technology. Unfortunately, these seem to just be deep problems with the Fediverse in general rather than just things to adjust to.

Anyway, enough ranting and back the question: which of these microblogging platforms should I even choose? Its making my head spin. Seems like Calckey would be the best for my needs at the moment.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't worry about mastodon.art, the owner is legitimately psycho.

[–] revolverunit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I keep reading stuff like this, but there's never really any context to go with it. Could you explain?

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Basically can read her blog on her going psycho on other instances. Basically if you don't agree with her, you're evil. Lots of drama seeking and trying to be a victim. https://dotart.blog/dotart-blog/

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m really beginning to see how the Fediverse can be complicated for new users

The fediverse is just the internet as it was designed to be. A network, not a broadcasting medium. A place for connecting people, not just consumers and corporations.

Choice means responsibility. It's a feature, not a bug. But sure, it's also paradoxical.

In answer to your question, I'd say just slow down a bit. Forget about self-hosting. Just pick a mainstream instance like this one and jump in. That's what I did. You can make changes later as appropriate. That was impossible where you were before.

[–] petunia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was going to join calckey.social/firefish.social but I’m a little hesitant now because mastodon.art defederated with it, and I follow multiple accounts from that instance. The drama that always surrounds defederation is a fundamental design flaw in the Fediverse

mastodon.art is unfortunately run by a harebrained power mod. Their predecessor was much much better and more thoughtful in their use of moderation powers.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Fwiw. I’m on Mastodon and Firefly amd honestly they are pretty much the same. One had more features, ones more stripped down, but it’s still just share some words, maybe a photo or video & post, the people like, reblog, share, or comment/reply.

I don’t feel the need for longer post, rich text, or 1000 emoji reactions so I stuck with Mastodon.

And Lemmy/Kbin is scratching my Reddit itch, especially as I’m working hard to build an alternative music community here.

If you are into photos more, there’s also Pixelfed.

What’s great about Mastodon and Lemmy specifically though? The apps. Both have a ton! I’m on Mona for Mastodon and Memmy for Lemmy and it’s really made all the difference.

Finally - don’t worry about mastodon.art - they aggressively defederate from everyone all the time.