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I know it doesn't sound like a tech article but it is!

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[–] Album@lemmy.ca 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Man as someone who named themselves Album because i am a fan of Albums as a piece of art - I do NOT agree. Illmatic is one of the best albums ever made, no challenge - but it's an odd take to try to frame it as one of the last. Super narrow view. I'm not even entirely convinced that Albums are "dead" though they're certainly less popular than they once were. It's also important to remember that LP/Albums were not always popular either.

[–] betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Absolutely agree. I'd argue Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious is one of the greatest albums of all time. And that came out in 2002, eight years after Illmatic. Blazing Arrow is such a seamless and well thought out album from start to finish. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blazing_Arrow

[–] gimpchrist@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Straight up

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Indeed it was era-defining for the genre. In France we had L'École Du Micro D'Argent, from IAM a couple years later, same level of mind blowing music

[–] shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not French, I don't understand a word of what they're saying, but man, I love that album. Especially "Demain, c'est loin", an epic tune that gives me Wu Tang "Triumph" vibes.

[–] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

My favourite song of all time. I learned the 9 minutes lyrics in 99 and can still sing it from memory today

[–] moody@lemmings.world 2 points 7 months ago

Still IMO the greatest French rap album of all time. Fantastic from start to finish.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 11 points 7 months ago

These gaslight articles are made by trash writers.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 7 months ago

Arcade Fire's Funeral came out in 2004 and also defined the genre. I don't see why the accessibility of singles would mean albums still in the album format would get worse.

[–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Counterpoints:

To Pimp a Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar

The Rising Tide - Fort Minor

The Black Parade - My Chemical Romance

Wretched and Divine - Black Veil Brides

Lincoln Park's entire discography

Natural Causes - Skylar Grey

Endgame

Appeal To Reason - Rise Against

Eminem's entire discography (Revival excluded)

Oh my heart - mother mother

Fallen - Evenescence

The Search - NF

Carolus Rex - Sabaton

Amorphous - Icon for Hire

Goodbye and Good Riddance - Juice WRLD

What distinguishes a good album from a mixtape (which is what the article was essentially describing when it said albums where dead) is in a good album there is a central theme (be that a story, emotion or simply a repeated refrain) the songs flow into each other each building on the last, a good album also has a good opening and closing track that introduce or resolve all the tension in the album. It is true many people don't listen to albums from cover to cover anymore, but those who truly love music do because most of the time it is the best way to enjoy it

[–] xXSirDanglesXx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reclaimer by Shadow of Intent is one of my personal favorite examples of a well put together album, and that I love to listen through from beginning to end.

[–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

I'll check it out

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I find it astounding that many people don't listen to whole albums front to back.

How do you hear a song you love and not want to hear more of it? The best way to hear more is to hear an album as the artist intended it to be heard.

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's Linkin Park. Found it amusing that you're stating their whole discography is great, but misspelled their name.

[–] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago
[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I cant speak for everything on that list, and I generally agree with you, but as a fan of Eminem it has always been an annoyance for me that he cannot keep to a theme to save his life. Maybe in the first four you could argue his theme was kept through cohesion sonically but no way do any of his recent works carry a theme. How many love songs on music to be murdered by? Kamikaze stops to take a stroll trough nowhere with Normal, good guy🤐 and bad guy then a soundtrack to a superhero movie and despite being great, stepping stones fits nowhere on then album.

[–] moon@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

As an Illmatic fan who's jaded with the streaming landscape, I was ready for some interesting insights into how things have changed but this article was pointless. It was celebrating Illmatic, but the actual argument about technology made no sense.

People aren't excited for Beyonce/Taylor Swift's albums to drop because they're albums. They're excited to get a large collection of new music. People will always want a collection of music from their favourite artists to drop, and call it whatever you want but that's all an album is. And Illmatic is one of my favourites of all time, but it's such a weird and arbitrary place to stop 'good albums' at. So many classic albums have come out since 1994, even within hip-hop if you want to be that narrow

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Archive link of the article, https://archive.ph/zhZh4