I don't think that "live chat" is fitting for Lemmy. It is an aggregator in the first place. There are already other FOSS services for live chatting, such as Matrix. IMHO, adding such a feature to Lemmy would be out of the scope of the project and probably result in a bad and dysfunctional implementation.

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I agree that lemmy shouldn't take it on itself, but I do think deeper integration into other foss systems is not a bad plan. Being able to integrate a matrix instance directly with a lemmy instance would be fancy and I think exploring stuff like that further could be the key to finally getting us beyond just seeking parity with reddit.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago

If Lemmy were to integrate with Matrix the storage costs would explode exponentially, the two systems are notoriously heavy! (Lemmy is consistently the only service that fills more than 1 GB of storage in my browser and refuses to clean up).

XMPP is the true inheritor of IRC when it comes to standard, federated, self-hostable chat / messaging.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 3 months ago

What sort of integration would you have in mind that is not achievable with a simple web link?

FWIW: communick does offer some form of integration. Members get one account on Lemmy, Matrix and Mastodon, and they can login with the same username/password on all of them.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

if you fill in your Matrix handle in your profile settings and so does the person who wants to contact you, the private messages between the two of you will use Matrix.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Perhaps it would better fit MBin.

If integrate Lemmy with something, that should be Mastodon first.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 8 points 3 months ago

Lemmy, not lemmy.world

GitHub is not git. LW is not Lemmy.

Aside: unless you want to deliberately confuse your users, this is a perfect example of why it's not a good idea to brand your service based on the technology it uses.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think mbin has microblogging and or profile posts. That'll get you part way to where you're going. And you can still subscribe to lemmy ("threadiverse") communities.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago

I think there might be some unaddressed confusion here. I see you mention "lemmy world", however that is just one instance running Lemmy software. It is open-source, so maybe somebody could fork it, but I don't think it's something to ask from lemmy.world. Maybe from the official Lemmy devs, but do keep in mind they're just volunteers.

As for posting on your profile, that's something for the side of micro-blogging. Standalone, that could be Mastodon in the Fediverse. But there's also MBin (active KBin fork) which is compatible with Mastodon.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

What is this, reddit? No thank you.

If you want it that badly, implement it and send a pull request, or maintain a fork.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 3 months ago

post on their profile rather than communities

could be a great microblog implementation

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 3 points 3 months ago

Profiles, yes that'd be nice as that'd bridge the gap with Mastodon and enable users to do standalone posts but see it threaded instead of the horrible microblogging UX for that.

Chat, I don't think belong to ActivityPub, it works alright for direct messages but that's it. It wouldn't scale well for this amount of traffic for a chat. But you can however put your Discord/Matrix/IRC on your profile, and communities can put their own Discord/Matrix/IRC rooms link in the description to form a chat community around the Lemmy community. Maybe an option would be adding dedicated fields for those so that it can be added to the UI to direct you to those transparently. UIs could implement some support for those and embed the chat rooms in the page.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Live chat doesn't really fit though I don't see why it would have large storage requirements. Posting on profiles might be a good idea though.

Either of those would be a general Lemmy thing, not specifically lemmy.world which is just one instance.