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That's a nice economy you've got there, it'd be a real shame if anything happened to it. (lemmy.ml)
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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is the USA involved in this?

There was a massive draught which killed the nuclear plants in France, causing them to buy power from Germany at extremely high prices and then at the same time, much less natural gas was being delivered from Russia, and the Russian war on Ukraine caused inflation. And all of that after two years of pandemic now means that many low income families can't afford the rising energy prices.

Obviously, there's many more factors involved, but I don't see the USA in this.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

US pushed Europe into an an economic war with Russia which led to incredible energy prices seen in Europe today. This is what's taking German economy which is largely based in manufacturing right now.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am not aware of them pushing us towards anything.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you haven't been paying attention. US instigated the sanctions and the whole economic war. Europe was initially reluctant, but went along in the end.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You mean after Russia attacked Ukraine? Again, I certainly do not feel like we needed instigation from the US for that.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Please explain to me the logic of EU sabotaging its own economy in response to the war in Ukraine. The sanctions have had pretty much no effect on Russia. In Particular, Russia is making record profit from energy sales right now.

The only country that benefits from Eurozone collapsing economically is the US. Much of European industry is already moving to US, there's a capital flight from Europe to US, and Europe is now dependent on expensive LNG coming from US. The only thing this fiasco achieved was to turn Europe into a vassal state of the US.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, you believe we're not stupid enough to crash our economy on our own, but are stupid enough to let the US convince us?