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Sounds like you have a lot of time.

I've been daily driving NixOS for about a year now, switched from over two decades of running Debian. I'll try to answer your questions from my perspective:

How much can I grok in a week?

If you have some experience with functional programming or declarative configs (think Ansible), then it's a lot easier. You can definitely learn enough in a week to get started. One year in, my Nix knowledge is very light still, and I get by fine. On the other hand, there's a lot of Nix I simply don't use. I don't write reusable Nix modules, and my NixOS configuration isn't split into small, well manageable files. It's a single 3k lines long, 130k sized flake.nix. Mind you, it's not complete chaos: it is generated from an Org Roam document (literate programming style; my Org Roam files are 1.2mb in size, clocking in at a bit below 10k lines).

With that said, it took me about a month of playing and experimenting with NixOS in a VM casually, a couple of hours a week, to get comfortable and commit to switching. It's a lot easier once you switched, though.

How quick is it to make a derivation?

For most things, a couple of minutes tops. I found it easier to create derivations than creating Debian packages, and I was a Debian Developer for two decades, had a lot more and lot deeper understanding of Debian packaging practices. It's not trivial, but it's also not hard. The first derivation is maybe a bit intimidating, but the 10th is just routine.

Regarding make install & co, you can continue doing that. I use project-specific custom flakes and direnv to easily set up a development environment. That makes development very easy. For installing stuff... I'd still recommend derivations. A simple ./configure && make && make install is usually very easy to write a derivation for. And nixpkgs is huge, chances are, someone already wrote one.

How quick is it to install something new and random?

With a bit of self control and liberal use of direnv & flakes, near instant.

How long do you research a new package for?

https://search.nixos.org/packages, you can search for a package, and you can explore its derivation. The same page also provides search for NixOS options, so you can explore available NixOS modules to help you configure a package.

Can you set up dev environments quickly or do you need to write a ton of configs?

Very easy, with a tiny amount of practice. Liberal use of flakes & direnv, and you're good to go. I can't comment much on Python, because I don't do much Python nowadays, but JavaScript, Go, Rust, C, C++ have been very easy to build dev environments for.

What maintenance ouchies do you run into? How long to rectify?

None so far. If it builds, it usually works. I do need to read release notes for packages I upgrades, but that's also reasonably easy, because I can simply "diff" the package version between my running system, and the configuration I just built: I can see which packages were upgraded, and can look up their release notes if need be. In short, about the same effort as upgrading Debian was (where I also rarely ran into upgrade/maintenance gotchas).

Do I need to finagle on my own to have /boot encrypted?

If you use the NixOS installer, then yeah, you do have to fiddle with that a bit more than one would like. If you install via other means (eg, build your own flake and use something like nixos-anywhere to install it), then it's pretty easy and well supported and documented.

Feel free to ask further question, I'm happy to elaborate on my experience so far.

I'd say I'm a "time-strapped" user since I have a full time job and I'd rather spend my free time gaming rather than fixing a broken OS, nevertheless... I have 2 PCs with Arch Linux (one for personal stuff and one for work) and a server with NixOS.

When things break on Arch (which is rare these days but it can happen, especially if you play around with things from the AUR), I just rollback with timeshift (it takes just a few seconds with btrfs) and try that update again in a few days. Minor issues I can just ignore or work around them and take care of them when I feel like it, but they usually get fixed with updates within a few days. The only time I felt that it was actively wasting my time was when Plasma 6 came out a few months ago and a lot of little things broke, especially on wayland, but they were fixed rather quickly with 6.1 so I can't complain too much.

NixOS on the other end has been nothing but trouble and a waste of time ever since I installed it. It took me a week to configure it, some packages are kinda old, most have incomplete declarative config, I had to manually write some units myself, and when things break it drives me crazy because even basic troubleshooting of services can be a pain in the ass because I have to find out where stuff is, know which config files are going to be overwritten, launch the correct nix-shell, ... it's all so tiresome... so I just revert to an older config and hope for the best. To make things worse, major updates often require manual changes to the config or even to application files themselves (looking at you, nextcloud) and you will excuse me if I can't be bothered to do that on a DECLARATIVE DISTRO. Even debian doesn't need that, come on! I don't care what people say on NixOS, this OS is not ready yet, I don't have time for this shit when I'm working and that server will be going back to debian next summer.

I just started using nix recently. I really like the concept, and how simple it is to "temporarily" install an app only needed briefly.

I was trying to install a python program i wrote, and packaged with poetry (on an arch system) to nix. Pip and pipx both threw errors, nothing seemed to work. Advice online seemed like i needed to basically create a nix flake for the app. I still havent gotten it installed because i have no idea what nix flakes are.

Its probably just a learning curve, and not using nix the "nix way" but im incredibly frustrated and it was a massive time sink for me. I figured pipx would basically work like flatpak does and just install the thing in my home, leaving the system immutable or whatever, and staying mostly in the spirit of nix.

So i'd say its weird enough of a distro to waste your time sometimes.

That said, it seems to have the cleanest updates ive ever seen on linux. So much so i could probably just run them via cron, and never think about it again.

So win some lose some...

Nixpkgs has more and newer packages than the aur.

The initial time to get shit done is longer; you can't simply make install, but honestly you shouldn't have been doing so on arch anyway.

Making your own derivation is much easier than making your own PKGBUILD and should be considered in those terms because you're not just shoving some binary into /usr/bin for it to explode later when glibc updates.

When things fuck up, reverting to your previous config is at worst a reboot away.

I have much less time than I used to, so moving from arch to Nixos has prevented the time otherwise wasted in an arch-chroot trying to fix issues like the kernel upgrading past what the zfs-dkms supports.

If you're using specialised proprietary tools, working them in with Nix can be an absolute nightmare, but I use a debian container for them.

Nixos is amazing especially for use cases like yours. Ive been using it for id say 8 months. Never had anything break on me ever that had to do anything with updates. The most you do is edit your config sometimes because they renamed something.

As for dotfiles you can keep em how you did it before, your home directory doesnt have to be immutable.

Nixlang isnt that hard if you dont do anything insane and you can copy most things from other peoples configs. If you have custom executables theres actually a really good way of packaging it for you own setup and you can use them as any other package.

Nix-shell is really good when you need something instantly. It just drops you into a shell with the packages installed that you asked for. I tested out compositors by just using nix-shell on the tty and running them to see how they work.

For packages its basically 0 time. Nixos has an insane number of packages for almost everything and even when its not packaged you can get flakes other people made(bit like aur now that i think about it) and it will build the package for you.

Idk that much about dev envs, for me its just and ubuntu or fedora distrobox because literally everything is made to be compiled on those and its easier than searching for every package you need because of course every distro has completely different names for it. As for setting up your own dev envs i heard its a blessing and really good.

Idk for encryption is just have LUKS, dont know about the technicalities that much.

Something i recommend is not falling down the rabbit hole of making everything immutable. Your dot files can be just the way you already have them. Home manager is cool and all but after moving literally all of my configs to it i realized its just an extra useless layer of abstraction. Just upload you config directory to github and everything will be easy to manage. Also sometimes my system doesnt build because of some conflict in my config files. Kinda stupid to have the most stable packaging system ive ever seen in my life and then fail a build because of your neofetch config or something.

Another amazing thing on nixos is that you can have multiple streams of packagesm. My system is on stable(because its stable lol but still rapid enough for me) but some of my packages are on unstable. Firefox vulnaribility? Just update it to unstable and EVERYRHING WORKS. It NEVER breaks.

Sorry for the novel length comment but in the end if you have the need for a stable unstable system the nixos is perfect. Tbh i wish there was something simpler that did what nixos does. Someone could make something built on nixos that abstracts away the features that 99% of users dont need.

So, I use Arch, but I don't use the AUR at all. Instead, I use nixpkgs to get stuff (admittedly only like 3 packages) not in the Arch repos.

The main reason for this is the quality of AUR packages. Although I don't really fear a malicious package, I do remember hearing about a package that moved a users /bin to /opt during the install phase.

Something like that is literally impossible with Nix, due to the way that applications aren't really installed to the system. But, nixpkgs also requires some level of vetting the package quality, which is also nice.

I also use nix for managing all my development environments. For example, my blog github repo, has a few nix files at it's root, and you should just be able to type nix-shell in folder, and then you will get an identical environment to me.

declarative rollbackable immutability sounds really freakin’ AWESOME

I have BTRFS snapshots set up, and with grub-btrfs, I can even boot from them and revert to an older kernel (my /boot is stored on BTRFS).

However, I have given up on NixOS, for many reasons. The documentation is very poor, and it's more complexity than it's worth, to make my whole OS reproducible, rather than just my development environments. In addition to that, their are also issues with running certain apps that expect to see a normal FIlesystem Hierarchy, which nix does not provide. Although you can work around this with stuff like steam-run or creating a fake FHS using nix, I would rather not play that game.

But, considering I installed some stuff in an Ubuntu 22 distrobox recently, because that was what VScode and Unity official provide repos for, maybe this doesn't really matter. You can probably use distrobox on Nixos, but I've seen issues about GPU acceleration with distrobox (and other non-nix apps) as well.

EDIT: I lied, I use the chaotic aur for some things.

You might also consider openSUSE for btrfs snapshot rollbacks in case something breaks (though tumbleweed is quite stable anyway). They also have community packages.

You might want to look at BlendOS. It's not up to NixOS's level of complexity, but it gets you atomic rollbacks. It might meet your time constraints better than the learning curve on NixOS.