It's a strength because we finally get to interact amongst the left without having to explain how society works to every ignorant conservatwat who thinks they can conservasplain some bullshit. It's what makes it great.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 7 months ago

Okay so yeah for actual conservatives totally. The Alt-Right is never going to be convinced no matter how many "facts" you explain to them anyway.

But you are considered a right-winger too, as well as I, by the likes of the folks in hexbear and Lemmygrad and lemmy.ml. We don't view ourselves that way, but it's the truth: compared to the likes of the Alt-Left, we legit are more "right-wing" than they are. And for good reason: e.g. we may not appreciate them but we've never actually murdered our landlords.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"For example, in terms of attracting new users" - meaning that's the whole point of the question, so I'll address that.

Lemmy isn't a corporation and doesn't have to think like one. Market share means nothing. The goal is a high-quality app that does what its users want. If a majority of those users have a similar range of political views, that's just how it works out. There's nothing stopping ultra-conservatives from spinning up Lemmy instances if they want, blocking communities whose overall personality they don't like, and banning users they don't like. If this balkanizes the lemmy userverse, I don't see that as an issue.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Conversely though: you are considered a right-winger by some (Lemmy.World = neoliberal bastion of not extreme enough Leftists). (And to be extra clear: me as well:-)

I agree that we must exclude trolling behaviors and those who refuse to not do them, but not bc of their beliefs and rather bc of their intolerance to anyone who disagrees. But by the same token, we must not become them in the process.

This would exclude both the Alt-Right, as well as the Alt-Left, leaving us centrists in the middle. And a week ago I would have added: "who don't want to violently overthrow all of society", although now I'm not so sure that a goodly fraction of Lemmy agrees with that anymore.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

I've always voted liberal up and down the ticket, and in my daily interactions you would be hard-pressed to find me acting like anybody's idea of a right-winger. But I don't look at every detail of liberal doctrine as the sacred word of the gods. In many liberal forums you have to parrot all the correct doctrine and wear a pristine pure white hat, or people (apparently including yourself) will put a black hat on you. But really anyone who puts themself on a high pedestal of moral perfection is delusional.

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