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Even gamers nexus' Steve today said that they're about to start doing Linux games performance testing soon. It's happening, y'all, the year of the Linux desktop is upon us. ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 52 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

A Linux distro with a great OOTB experience for gamers would go a long way.

  • Steam pre-installed
  • trustworthy Flatpak packages for popular gamer apps like Discord (not uploaded by some nameless rando)
    • TeamSpeak for curmudgeons like me and my friends
  • desktop environment tailored to Windows users
  • auto-install and configure graphics drivers for AMD and Nvidia
  • configurable automatic updates and system backup
  • choice between Chromium, Firefox, etc. for default browser during setup
  • included in Steam Deck compatibility testing
[–] asap@lemmy.world 41 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Luckily for you this already exists, and it's effectively SteamOS:

https://bazzite.gg/

You can even put this on a Steam Deck as a drop-in replacement.

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Bazzite is fantastic and it's what I'm running on my gaming laptop, but I've always wondered why you would want to put it on a Steam Deck? Is it for the people who use it as a laptop replacement?

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago

Beca*se I’m tired of using an ancient version of KDE Plasma?

[–] megopie@beehaw.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

As I understand it, there have been issues with distributing Nvidia drivers in a Linux distro. Some do do it, but it’s kind of a legal grey area due to potential conflicts with the license of the Linux kernel.

I don’t really understand it fully, but it’s been an issue for a while. Apparently it’s less of an issue now because Nvidia partially open sourced its drivers. AMD’s GPU drivers apparently don’t have these issues.

Wonder what the situation with intel’s new GPUs and its drivers is.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 hours ago

Nvidia is working on opensousing and openlicensing their drivers, it's going to be good, but nobody knows when

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[–] videogame@hexbear.net 38 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just in time for Windows 10 to lose support in October 2025 and for me to never switch to Windows 11 because it sucks and I hate it

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 7 points 9 hours ago

Every so often they’ll release an update that breaks everything, or they’ll patch something and the processor improvements will be bigger than intel or amd get out of a generation, showing how gimped it was to begin with.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

I don’t understand this tbh. It’s here already. SteamOS will likely be just like the deck - immutable arch running the existing steam package.

You can totally do this today and it works great. Don’t want to mess with arch and that confusing command line? Use something easier like mint and install the flatpak - then you don’t even have to futz with nvidia drivers. Or use bazzite?

What does steamOS offer that we don’t already have? (Serious question)

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago

I think it's mostly a matter of having it preinstalled.

The perception is that if it's pre installed, then it is designed for the device.

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

these people need permission from a massive corporation calling it something other than Linux so they can dodge the cognitive dissonance of hating Linux

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Or rather, there's someone who isn't going away anytime soon and someone who you can go to if their shit screws up, someone with an actual address and support number, and it's not just a Github issue tracker page that hasn't been seen by the owner in months.

Some people want that peace of mind. Some people aren't built to scour the internet for hours to maybe find solutions to their problems.

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

..do people really do that with Microsoft, or do they just throw the errant device in a closet and get a new one at best buy?

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[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm confused, do you think Canonical, RedHat or SUSE are going away in the near future? Or that they don't have support?

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[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Plz gaben I want steamOS official so bad ;-;

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[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

In my case it's a sign I might should try out PC gaming again. I've been console exclusively for like 15 years now because so few games used to work. But with Steamdeck's popularity we might actually start seeing more than 10% of games getting native ports 🤞

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 9 hours ago

I would love them to partner with like micorcenter and have systems that are completely supported like an apple store.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

PC gamers moving to console? What's next the existing consoles adopting keyboard+mouse?..

There is no downside to this

[–] HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 hours ago

Consoles have accepted keyboard+mouse for years now! Microsoft started with the Xbox one and Sony started with the PS3; Though there were select games for generations prior that supported k+m through their own implentations

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Let me preface by saying I love everything Valve has done for Linux gaming and I'm fully aware that Linux wouldn't be where it is now without Steam. With that said... I really don't get the hype for SteamOS on other devices. I mean, it's serviceable if all you do is gaming but it's honestly one of the worst desktop experiences I've ever had (and I've ~~used gnome~~ had many): You need to go into desktop mode to do pretty much anything a regular computer should be able to do and, when you get back into Steam, it closes everything you opened while in desktop mode. This means you have to rely on hacky software to do things you would just be able to do if Steam was better integrated with the desktop. For example, why do I need to install a plug-in to import all of my games from different stores into Steam when I should just be able to alt-tab into whatever launcher I want? No, I will not import other launchers into Steam's launcher and then launch the launcher from the Steam launcher to launch the game — I'm not a crazy person. It feels as if Steam is doing everything in its power to keep me from leaving it and punishes me for daring to try, which honestly reminds me of a certain fruit company. Now, Valve obviously designed SteamOS to be used with a controller and only for games bought from Steam (which is delusional but I digress), so let's assume you are that person: you have your entire game library on Steam and you use a controller as your main input device so you don't see the need to ever leave Valve's walled garden. Then you'd still be better off with any one of the other 37 thousand distros that come with Steam preinstalled because then you at least have access to the desktop Steam UI.

tl; dr: SteamOS kinda sucks, just use a normal distro. Yes, even if you exclusively buy games from Steam.

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