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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Tom Morello isn’t qualified to speak about politics.

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Saw him play recently in Alabama. They were selling this phrase on a shirt. Much to my surprise, that shirt was sold out by the time I went to pick it up. I was pleasantly shocked.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Saw someone wearing that shirt in a shopping mall in the UK!

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

That's how bands make most of their money in the streaming era and with ticketmaster raking in a big chunk of the ticket sales despite not providing much.

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[–] JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 103 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The only viable solution when Nazis take control of government is violence. There is no reasoning with them, they are not logical.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah? You and what army? Seriously tho I'm looking to join.

[–] JoshuaBrusque@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am exercising my 2nd amendment rights, purchasing multiple firearms for multiple purposes and have signed up for classes at a local range. I'm with you, but acknowledge that this part of it feels like a lonely endeavor.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Wish the UK's right to defend itself wasn't banned in 1997.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is correct, and also, Nazis don't care about good faith argumentation. They're explicitly anti-liberal (as in, liberty, freedom) and will only pretend to have these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction ("You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?")

In this video of former white supremacists talking about how they left the ideology, one brings up that on their Nazi website, it was normal and common to argue for points they knew were garbage, like the Great Replacement theory. It's about power and results, not liberalist idealism.

Violent methods usually aren't the preferred way of dealing with Nazis (because it's harder to get a mass movement to join in and support it, and because it's riskier, legally, which makes it harder to sustain), but it works. It broke up the BUF in Britain, it's kept the local turds scared to show their faces or reveal their true thoughts (don't worry, they still usually get revealed by researchers anyway). Violence works. They know it and we know it. But when they're the government, their violence is now legal.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

these values to try and point out an apparent contradiction ("You believe in rights to speech and democracy, so why are you censoring us?")

Nazis want to take that freedom

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Of course, but it's there now and they're happy to abuse it. Call them hypocrites all you want, they couldn't care less.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago

History has proven this.

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[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Nazis deserve exactly as much mercy and tolerance as they give to others.

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Violence against Nazis isnt the answer, its a question and the answer is always yes.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Paradox of tolerance.

The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.

In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

My only disagreement with Popper is hes too lenient in what counts as intolerant

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Edit - My mistake, I somehow was blind to the first in-.

 

In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

No we musn't. The intolerant have broken the social contract and are no longer extended that latitude.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are agreeing. They said we must be INtolerant of intolerance.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

You are correct, I misread what they wrote despite quoting it. Whoops. 🙂

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[–] TheRealLinga@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'll upvote Tom Morello anytime

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[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] tostiman@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

This guy is based af

[–] rotkehle@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 week ago
[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nazis deserve to be shot and killed

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[–] jared@mander.xyz 18 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I wanna hear everyone's fight music! I've been leaning on RTJ the last few days.

Show Me the Body is great.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

Probably a lot of obvious choices on here, but I like to think of it as honoring the classics of the genre, and hopefully there are a few entries which are new to folks.

  • Crime Mob - Knuck if You Buck (this goes at the start of the playlist, because, in my experience, playing this to a crowd of significant size will result in hands being thrown somewhere, it is a statistical inevitability)
  • Godsmack - I Stand Alone
  • ~~Pantera - Walk~~ Phil Anselmo is a Nazi shit weasel and I was unaware.
  • Limp Bizkit - Rollin
  • Rage Against the Machine - Fistful of Steel
  • Lil Wayne ft Eminem- Drop the World
  • CKY - 96 Quite Bitter Beings
  • DMX - X Gon Give It To Ya
  • Ludacris - Get Back
  • KMFDM - Free Your Hate
  • Aesop Rock - None Shall Pass
  • Powerman 5000 - When Worlds Collide
  • Static-X - Push It
  • DJ Shadow ft Run the Jewels - Nobody Speak
  • Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Red Right Hand
  • Slipknot - People=Shit
  • Slayer - Raining Blood
  • Holy Fuck - Tom Tom
  • Danzig - Mother
  • Queens of the Stone Age - You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar, But I Feel Like A Millionaire (gotta find an edit without the intro tho)
  • Mastodon - Blood and Thunder
  • Mïngle Härder (formerly Möngöl Hörde) - Blistering Blue Barnacles

Two nautical themed metal/hardcore songs which get me ready to tussle isn't a lot, but it is weird that it happened twice.

  • Rise Against - State of the Union
  • Coheed and Cambria - Key Entity Extraction V: Sentry the Defiant (with honorable mention to In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth:3 and Welcome Home)
  • Chevelle - The Red
  • Bullet For My Valentine - Waking the Demon
  • Eve 6 - Think Twice
  • Hole - Violet
  • Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
  • Smashing Pumpkins - Bullet With Butterfly Winds

That seems like enough brainstorming for now. Hope someone finds something they vibe with.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh Jesus fucking Christ. Thank you for letting me know, I'll edit that immediately. The worst part is that I've conditioned myself to cope with the news I've just received by listening to Pantera.

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[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

Propaghandi is a big one for me since they're from my city, but also Dead Kennedys, NoFX, Stray From the Path, Jeff Rosenstock

Edit:

I have more 😈:

  • John K. Samson/The Weakerthans
  • Nick Shoulders
  • Jesse Welles
  • The Narcissist Cookbook
  • Jason Isbell
  • John Prine
  • Woody Guthrie
  • The Coup
  • Larry and his Flask
  • Jordan Smart
  • Phil Ochs
  • Watchhouse
  • Warren Zevon
  • Elvis Costello
  • The Orphans
  • Mischief Brew
  • The Tillers
  • Country Joe McDonald
  • Barbara Dane
  • They Might be Giants
  • David Rovics

Sorry, music and finding it is a special interest.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Don't be sorry ✊

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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe Im basic but Rise Against still hits. Sudden Urge goes hard. Also turns out they just released a new song within the last 24h that I need to listen to

[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

+1 Sudden Urge!

I slept on most of the post-Endgame catalogue except for maybe 5 songs, and this was not one of them. I eased up on the skip button one day in the car recently and got to hear it again, for what felt like the first time. It gave me chills.

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[–] tissek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From old timey union fight songs (ex Workers of the world, Awaken) to protest rock. The Swedish band Nationalteatern have a great banger "Staten och Kapitalet" about that the state and the capital sit in the same boat, but it is not those who row and the whip does not lick their fat necks.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I've been loving the old Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Phil Ochs, Billy Bragg, and Barbara Dane

This music just hits so hard

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