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If your first instinct as a westerner is to criticize and lecture 3rd world communist movements, instead of learning from their successes, then you have internalized the patronizing arrogance of the colonial system you claim to oppose.

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[–] Docker_84@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago

This l find a general attitude among the Westerners.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago

I wrote my thesis about how we can learn from Cuba's green farming movements (because they were essentially locked out of capitalism) and was criticized for it.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What are some succesful 3rd world communist movements? Asking for a friend

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 20 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The obvious one is China. But if you wanna learn a little something, read about Sankara. If you want a whole book of histories of the third world national liberation and socialist movements, read The Darker Nations by Vijay Prashad.

[–] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

According to some theories, China.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are offended by this, you might be incapable of self-reflection

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 20 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine getting offended by this instead of just being anti-colonialist

Why do white crackers have to be so set in their ways?

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 17 points 16 hours ago

Simply put: maintaining the status quo is prerequisite to their comfortable living.

[–] hexthismess@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Lemmy libs in this thread showing they have an aversion to reading

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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Western liberals who think they are entirely objective and free of bias really struggle to get to grips with how much of their world view is just patronizing racist chauvinism.

Also I'm not even sure why liberals are permitted on lemmy. Send them and their disgusting violent ideology back to corporate media.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 day ago

They don't have any problems with US corporate media's ideology. They're just mad reddit took away their app treats.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

defederated from lemmy.world

Have fun, .ml!

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't know why they even left Reddit. Were they really that mad about app development?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

Depends which wave of newcomers. Some in more recent migrations just got banned for criticizing musk or endorsing Luigism, which is pretty milquetoast stuff any old lib can do.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Reddit is not even "liberal" anymore. The people on the conservative sub will say that it is but its been shifting rightward for years. There are a lot of people getting permad over things that in the past would have had broad agreement.

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[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am not only on .world (actually started out there and moved over here), but yeah, for me that was the last straw. That official app is just an affront.

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

clueless oh I wonder why this is near the top of the active feed even though there's only 6 comments

clicks the Federation button to see the post on its home page

aware

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm so glad I don't let lemmy.nazi federate to my server lol

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

i've been blocking (and getting banned from) plenty of .world politics and "history" comms.

its really that terrible. red scare propaganda and anticommunism dressed up as "leftism".

i had someone imply to me they admire marx engels and lenin and condemn socialist "authoritarianism" in the very same post recently.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

lenin

Would have been bad enough to specifically name Engels, but Lenin? hahaha oh wow

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Leftism is when you vote for the democrats unquestioningly with out applying any sort of pressure or having primaries.

A recent question I've been asking my democrat friends in real life, now that trump is hiring 20k more ICE gestapo, lets say Democrats win the midterms and then win the next presidency; do you think they will fire them all? Do you think they're going to "look soft on crime" and "defund the police" when they refused to last time during massive nation wide protest? The answer is pretty obviously no. The DHS and the USA-PATRIOT act are not even on the table.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

i feel democrat equivalent parties all over the world are like this now. the pretense is literally the only thing left in them, and its paper thin at this point.

"real" socdems would at least fucking try somewhat.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad I'm on db0 and can still see posts from .ml, hexbear, and .world.

I can get a gauge of what people from all servers are saying, and I'm finding the gist that what you're saying is correct.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

the amount of defederation infighting and sectarism going on here is stupid, ngl. we should definetly grow up to be at least more united.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The current McCarthyite tactic is to use "tankie" and "authoritarian" as the code-words for anyone who dares to oppose US / NATO hegemony and align themselves with the anti-colonial projects. Only the US-aligned countries are allowed to be "authentic marxists", and everyone else is labeled a tankie.

These people have no concept that everyone from Paul Robeson to even MLK was called a "dirty commie", or that the US is drone bombing like 8 countries in the middle east and north africa as we speak.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 day ago

May I recommend a book: The Jakarta Method, by Vincent Bevins. Humanized Communism in a way that profoundly changed my thinking.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

in first world nations we are insidiously brainwashed to believe that there WERE NO SUCCESSES among Communist movements.

awareness of those successes must be promoted.

start with "hey this really successful thing happened" AND THEN reveal "btw that was communism"

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