this post was submitted on 11 May 2025
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If your first instinct as a westerner is to criticize and lecture 3rd world communist movements, instead of learning from their successes, then you have internalized the patronizing arrogance of the colonial system you claim to oppose.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

Idk how anyone can defend how we (the US) does shit. Especially after this year. If you weren't already privy to how monstrous we can be now you are, and now we pulled any good shit we might have done, too.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember watching a documentary about North Korea and one of the guides was talking about how people in NK and Asia more broadly don't necessarily want to live under the same liberal-democratic capitalist system that the west tries to impress on them.

How arrogant are we to act like we have it all figured out and that countries outside of Europe and North America are backwards shitholes?

[–] bigboismith@lemmy.world -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There is absolutely a discussion to be had here.

Of course people should be allowed to have their own government setups and authorities. It would be wrong to assume that we in the west have it all figured out.

However there are still questions of fundamental human rights. In many places of the world a woman can legally be raped, it's the woman's responsibility to always have a male relative with them. If we were to ask women what they thought about it they would probably say that there is no problem with it, that's just how it works. These women have been so indoctrinated by it that they don't question it.

We could also use slavery in America as an example. Many slaves probably accepted the argument that they had a better living standard as slaves, or some other argument that made them accept the status quo. Should Europe just have accepted that that is the way life goes over there?

Where does the line go between fundamental human rights and respecting other ways of life go? Western fundamental rights such as equal rights, right to a trial, right to life, etc. are just that, western.

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