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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What they're not saying is that THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO PLAY OLD GAMES. They make nothing from it and they probably look at those people as leeches not contributing to their bottom line. Unless the government forces them, there is literally zero incentive; in fact a financial disservice for them to support legacy live service games in an offline manner

The best case scenario for them after they kill a game is for you to forget it existed and buy the next one.... Oh and engaging with the microtransaction ecosystem.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Private servers are not always a viable alternative option for players as the protections we put in place to secure players’ data, remove illegal content, and combat unsafe community content would not exist and would leave rights holders liable.

Incorrect. Only in a capitalist hellhole like America. In the rest of the world this would never be a problem. Just release the server code under MIT and let the community fix it. Also make sure you can manually setup a masterserver in the game itself, or implement direct connect functionality.

many titles are designed from the ground-up to be online-only; in effect, these proposals would curtail developer choice by making these video games prohibitively expensive to create.

Same answer as before. Release the online part under the MIT license. Not your problem anymore at that point. You can still require an original game license for the game itself. We're only talking about the server software here.

We welcome the opportunity to discuss our position with policy makers and those who have led the European Citizens Initiative in the coming months.

We, the people, have been discussing this for at least a decade now. Get over it and stop trying you capitalist pigs.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

just put the fries in the bag. stop making excuses. stop killing games.

[–] dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Is this a troll site? Or just lawyers?

[–] Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Next step will be Stop Buying Games.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So...here's the thing, folks: What you're REALLY going to have to do is stop buying live service video games.

If I understand this, it is a petition to get the EU government to look into maybe thinking about making some laws to...do something about live service games becoming unplayable when the servers shut down. Okay, here's how that's going to go: "We looked into it and decided not to do anything."

Has anyone tried...not buying the damn games in the first place? If you pay for these games knowing that the soulless reptilian cloacal slits that run the AAA industry can just shut down servers whenever they want, YOU are the problem.

[–] Toga65@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean having devs turn over the games to players after they cease development is not crazy at all.

Live service games can still absolutely be playable once development has ceased.

Anyone can run a server.

Stop killing games is a no brainer initiative

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure. I remember when Id Software released Doom as open source. They had just released Quake II earlier that month, Doom was old news and not really a money maker for the company, so they opened the source code to let the community play with it. That was a cool thing to do, it should be done more often.

I would say yeah, you should build a game in such a way that it can be played once its abandoned. The greed vampires who are actually in charge won't let a law like that be passed. Or if it is, they'll ignore it.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Doom, Build Engine games, Marathon. I can still play those games, but even if Bungie faux-Marathon ever comes out, I wouldn't be able to play it after a few years. One of the biggest turnoffs to these As-A-Service games is time limited events. I don't want to feel nostalgic for something and not be able to replay it. Between the discussions on Hell Divers II events and the Sony fuckary, I'm glad I passed. Fuck, I remember my hype for Hawken died when I saw it was going to be f2p.

I strongly dislike the end-around that these "live service" games are trying to do around copyright law. I'm a strong proponent of the idea that intellectual property law is a compromise. You get some time to make your money on your idea, then it becomes the heritage of all mankind. Treating games as a service is an attempt to weasel out of their end of the bargain.

So I don't fucking buy them.

[–] Toga65@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I miss Hawken so god damned much..

Perfect example of a game that could easily have been community hosted

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