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Nautilus File Manager Gets More Features Ahead of the GNOME 46 Release - 9to5Linux (9to5linux.com)

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 42 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Cool, but is copy path to file a thing yet?

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Copy the file and paste it into anywhere you can enter text... you get the path to the file as text.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yay, basic features needing weird workarounds!

Edit: it seems like it, but we were wrong. You dont need a filepath, you can literally copy the file and paste it to a

Browser
Terminal
Editor
...

Can someone give me a situation where you cant paste a file and it inserts the filepath instead?

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm on KDE, how does KDE do it better?

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On dolphin, you right click on it and than there is "copy path to file" button

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How is it better if you are going to paste it anyway? I mean, on GNOME you would have to just copy the file, instead of the two clicks on KDE.

Am I missing something?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This works in Dolphin/KDE too, actually same workflow as on Windows. I just find it very strange to do that, but as you are saying that, I suppose as on Unix everything is a file, copying a file to a location that cant handle the file is just like copying the filepath!

Boom, blew my silly KDE mind. I think you are right, in most situations you can just copy-paste the actual file, as you only need file paths where the file cannot be pasted anyways.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This might work sometimes, but some other times you are dealing with a program that deals in files and text and you want the path itself, for example, to send the path of a file in a shared mounted disk to a colleague/friend through slack /discord/telegram/teams. All of those will try to send the file itself instead of the path I would want to send.

Furthermore, idk how that interacts within a VM environment, for example when you have a work computer and you need to connect into a gnome based remote desktop environment, will the shared clipboard act nicely? That's way too many variables and prone to errors, an option to copy path is just simpler.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

True. I suppose this is a useful feature

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If for some reason you paste a file in telegram/slack/discord/teams, it tries to send the file, so I have no way of sending the path to the file (which might be on a shared device) to someone unless I paste it in a text editor first and then copy the text.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 7 points 9 months ago

I should try that thanks!
Though I still believe that UX would benefit from such a button, there's a Nautilus extension for it as well chr314/nautilus-copy-path, I think it deserves to be native

[–] sv1sjp@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

++ as well as searching on a folder simply by the first letter, without searching everywhere

[–] galmuth@feddit.uk 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They intentionally removed this feature years ago. It was possible to reenable via a dconf setting for a while but I believe that was also eventually removed.
So annoying.

[–] drz@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely insanity that this feature was removed. I stopped using Nautilus because of this.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Agree. I can understand GNOME not supporting infinite settings and customization, but since when are Linux users noobs?

People using GNOME either never edited a Desktop entry, entered a manual path or did anything poweruser related, or they use 3rd party apps or do everything in the terminal.

I dont get how a Linux Desktop can have so little support for anything.

Needing extensions to restore basic features is not good UX. Like a clipboard manager, blurry shell, appindicators? Why?

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only reason I use gnome is because the window dragging has a weird flicker with KDE and nvidia cards. In gnome it's way smoother. That and the pressing the super button for the fancy window animation, that one is really nice. I could live without the fancy animation (or with whatever KDE replacement that I'm sure it's good enough) if the driver issue wasn't a thing, though.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Yes KDE has something similar and you can remap it with a command. TheLinuxExperiment had this for krunner once, its probably possible.

GNOME is really nice in what it does. Simply that it doesnt do enough for me. There are cool extensions and I feel the community is just way bigger. The animations, dash to panel, blur my shell, make it very cool.

Just the lack of so much like powerful apps is a nogo

[–] Doods@infosec.pub 3 points 9 months ago

++ Compact view (as Nemo calls it)

[+] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Putting the following with executable permissions inside ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts/SCRIPTNAME adds a right click menu to Nautilus that serves the same purpose:

#!/bin/bash

CLIPBD=''
[[ "${XDG_SESSION_TYPE}" == "x11" ]] && CLIPBD='xsel -ib'
[[ "${XDG_SESSION_TYPE}" == "wayland" ]] && CLIPBD='wl-copy --trim-newline' && wl-copy --clear

echo -n "${NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS}" \
  | tee >(xargs -I {} notify-send "Path Copied:" "{}") \
  | ${CLIPBD}

The 'notify-send' bit isn't necessary; it just puts up a notification.

Mentioning only because it's a simple demonstration of a pretty easy way to extend Nautilus for all kinds of purposes; w/o messing around with the pygobject interface. (There's supposed to be an xdg standard for file manager extensions like this, but managers use their own custom folders, syntax, etc. for such extensions. I think pcmanfm adheres to the standard; Dolphin requires a .desktop file somewhere; Thunar, Caja, & Nemo work similar to Nautilus.)

[–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago

Bad ass! Thank you for this wisdom

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, Gnome is context aware if you ctrl+c a an image file, and you paste it to a text editor it will paste it as a path, if you paste it in an image editor it will be pasted as an image, if the program supports it (e.g. it works in Krita, but not in Pinta)

Drag and drop is not working because of Wayland. Between 2 windows of the same app, e.g. Nautilus it's working.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DnD works fine here on Wayland?

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which apps? Are you sure they are not xwayland? I cannot dnd anything from FileRoller or from Xarchiver

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I never drag anything into Nautilus, but Nautilus -> gnome-text-editor works as expected. Nautilus -> My terminal, and my video player works too.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Cool, it pastes it as an image in telegram, I would need to use a text editor as a proxy. Gnome is not context aware enough to read my brain to know the intent, having the choice to be explicit (copy path) is just better.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not sure 🤔, I have been using a lot ranger lately

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Try "lf". It's ranger written in go. == lots faster.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Although it doesn't have as many features out of the box, you have to setup some stuff.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ranger is amazing, I never thought to use it as my default file manager

[–] yianiris@kafeneio.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

worker sucks less

@QuazarOmega @BlanK0

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Luckily if you need that feature, you can just download a different file manager. This is why I hate monopolies and love Linux and the FOSS community.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aside from ios, I don't know of anywhere that has a monopoly on file managers

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

It's not just file managers that enjoy monopolies though. Often there is an industry standard software that people are essentially locked into, like Adobe. It seems like they're pushing unwanted features lately, but people have to just suck it up.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's really slow progress on these things. Someone should make a better file browser with features like Dolphin for Gnome.

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Nemo? Thunar?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Both hell no. I think pcmanfm-qt is the only good Filemanager apart Dolphin and Nautilus. But it also lacks many things.

The "type to filter" feature is awesome and way more useful than dolphins search.

I used it during a time where Dolphin always crashed for weird reasons, and it was tolerable

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[–] poinck@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This website consists only of ads, why bother sharing it?

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Use ublock origin, it will change your life

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Yes, this! uBlock Origin rocks.

[–] poinck@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On the desktop I am safe from most ads, but on mobile some pages are more pain than others.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago

I would suggest using Firefox on mobile, you can add the ublock extension there as well

[–] halm@leminal.space 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see zero ads on 9to5linux, why bother going online without an adblocker?

[–] poinck@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I wish Mlem would just open it in the DuckDuckGo browser, there some content can be seen, but it is very busy blocking it all.

But, it still stands, it is just too much, this page is just completely broken!

[–] RoboRay@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

I see one sponsor link, no other ads.

Choose your browser extensions, choose your browsing experience.

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 3 points 9 months ago

See, these are the people where websites generate their revenue.

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