I'm guessing maybe having the Xbox branding entails some certification fee? Also is the base Z2 supposed to be stronger than the Z1 Extreme? It'll be rough to compete with older Z1 Extreme handhelds and presumably any of the Z2 family of chips that come with SteamOS
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But you get freedom of windows for free.
Windows on handheld. Linux 2.0 - finally
I wonder if / when they'll adapt their new stripped down windows to the existing Xbox generation
All signs are that is the "next xbox"
Migrating the Series to Windows would end horribly. Theoretically there can be a path from xbox OS to windows but it is going to be a pretty large update and will be prone to erroring out. And it also feels like a REAL good way to accidentally jailbreak your own consoles. And people already (rightfully) lose their shit when MS change the dashboard every year to add even more ads and make it even harder to find your god damned games.
I forget what The Leakers are saying but this console generation more or less started in 2020 and we are coming up on the 5th year. Assuming a 7 to 8 year cycle, the XBOX 2 Pi would be coming out as early as Fall of 2027. So massive software/firmware hell combined with support burden versus potentially breaking their lockstep with Sony and trying to pivot more toward the Nintendo "We are your second console" mindset. Except that your "second console" is also your netflix box and your MS word box and how you watch pornhub and so forth. Especially if said "XBOX 2 Pi" is more just branding and HTPCs from existing vendors.
So... Steam Boxes. And those totally weren't a horrible failure.
fuckin hell
How much does a gaming laptop cost again? Because this is that essentially.
You can't hold a gaming laptop in your hands (and actually use it)
Of course a larger device will cost less/provide better performance. You're paying a premium for the handheld formfactor. Just like how with a gaming laptop you're paying a premium vs a 50+ pound desktop.
My comment was in favor of this pricing because of that and gaming laptops are generally more expensive than this despite being less convenient for the primary purpose. A lot of people forget these things are actually quite capable desktop PCs when paired with a dock + monitor.
A Google search preview from the official Barcelona Asus store “Asus by MacMan” has accidentally revealed what many feared: the ROG Xbox Ally X will retail for €899, while the standard model sits at €599.
Not sure how this would translate to USD 1000 to be honest. Prices in euro usually include taxes, which is what, 21% in Spain? So minus taxes the 599,-€ model would translate to about $550 (taxes not included).
This still doesn't undercut the Steam Deck which I feel it should do considering it's likely using the same APU and the Deck is a couple years old at this point, but it's not as bad as the headline/article makes it sound.
Yea ally things considered, I think the device is reasonably priced for what it is. The Deck was exceptionally cheap on launch so I don't think it's a fair comparison. The specs of the Deck weren't really mind blowing either when it came out, what made it great was the package as a whole and for the price, it did great. The specs of this device is already way beyond what the Deck has even accounting for the 3 year gap.
People just seem be hating on it because it's Microsoft or that they're expecting console pricing for a PC.
Would love to give Portal a try, but until it's 150 that's not gonna happen.