There are so many things I would like them to fix before they add more half-baked stuff.
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Have you heard the good message of our lord and Savior Nextcloud Talk?
Nextcloud remains one of the buggiest and half finished projects I've seen in the homelab space. I swear most of my time using nextcloud has been trying to repair nextcloud
I've been using NC for a decade now, and the last three years on the docker AIO have been hassle-free. Updating used to scare the hell out of me and now it's just a non-issue.
Their upgrade scripts for on the rails installs have gotten a lot better recently, especially in the last year. But then last upgrade they fucked it all up and made a series of database commands mandatory for the warnings to go away. Uggghhhh.
Same, I'm not sure what the complaints are. Deploy it properly, get it set up, test it thoroughly. Enjoy.
NC AIO is heavy. That's my only real complaint. Error messages are pretty easy to decipher.
I'm still leery after coming over from a TrueNAS app deployment of NC that crashed and I was never able to get back running. Docker AIO has been good so far, but NC is the reason I validate backups.
it wasn't only NC that was a hassle on TrueNas lol, now with Docker Compose most seem to be working a lot better imo.
What about second broken web office suite?
I use it and like it but at this point I just assume theyre working on a full rewrite in a language other than PHP. Go, Rust, whatever. Wouldn't be easy as they need to rewrite a number of applications for it too but quite frankly seems like the next logical step.
The Go rewrite of owncloud is looking tempting these days.
Owncloud laid off the whole team working on that. They went to create OpenCloud instead.
Ugh. All I want is for one of these projects to not fall apart so I can reliably share files with my family.
Owncloud -> Nextcloud -> ~~OCIS~~ -> Opencloud?
Lol, for real? I wondered why they would create OpenCloud if it is basically just OwnCloud IS
I only half remembered; it wasn't really layoffs, but a large management change without much apparent plan for oCIS.
Ex-ownCloud devs seek new start at OpenCloud – Owncloud owner wants to sue
Yeah, I read about the lawsuit thing. I actually already looked at OpenCloud as a NC replacement, but the docker setup isn't really polished currently, so I'm gonna let them cook a while longer
Opencloud looks nice, but they have a "telemetry" section in their roadmap.
Af first glance it's not FLOSS, is it?
Nope, doesn't seem so at all. I'll stay with the web version of LibreOffice, myself (and OnlyOffice as a second choice if the first one were to went south)