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[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (3 children)

God I want one of those tri fold Huawei phones but you just can't get them in the US thanks a fucking lot US government

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That phone is pretty much the most innovative smartphone of all time. But on youtube there's a video stress-testing how it would hold up to real life conditions... and it gets completely destroyed by a handful of sand. Same applies to pretty much all foldables: if you get any sand or dirt in the folds, you can easily destroy the screens.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yea, I just want a good, small form-factor smartphone with excellent battery life, a decent camera, and a nice screen, really. Foldables are both way overkill for that and not as durable.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

phones have become status symbols; what's why apple is going to start making folding iphones too.

i bought my gen-alpha grand nieces/nephews some motorolas last xmas and they rejected them because they wanted iphones.

i was disappointed at first, but then pleased to learn that i lit a fire that forced my their parents to buy expensive AF iphones to quell the rabble and none of the motorolas helped subsidized the $6,000+ cost. lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sad, would've loved a moto. My phone is nearing 5 years old, at which point I'll probably grab a used Pixel and throw GrapheneOS on it, wish Chinese phones weren't so legislated against in the US.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

wish Chinese phones weren’t so legislated against in the US.

tell me about it; i've got a redmi that's become an expensive paperweight because of it and despite the fact that it's comparable to a pixel 8.

i'm forced to make due with a VASTLY inferior "american" phone (and for the same price). i'm waiting for the day that graphane/postmarket/lineage/etc. starts supporting my redmi model.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Would be nice...

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd really like a smaller phone too, and I think that some of the better companies like Oneplus are starting to offer smaller variants (Oneplus 13T and 13S just got released a few months ago, and they're 6.3" whereas most now are 6.8").

Besides that tho I've found OnePlus and Xiaomi phones to be pretty unbeatable the past few years, for battery life and fast charging.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Would be nice if phones from PRC-based companies weren't so legislated against in the US Empire. I think OnePlus isn't as blacklisted from bands as Xiaomi or Huawei, so that might be the direction I head, but for now it seems safest to just go for a used Pixel and throw GrapheneOS on it, unfortunately.

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They cost waaaaay too much. Most flagship phones do.

Still using my two year old Xiaomi Redmi Note 12. It was super cheap, relatively. Like about 12 times cheaper than the Huawei tri-fold.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

They for sure do cost too much but for the first time in about a decade they made a phone I think it's actually cool consumer tech and something that I want

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

(People's Republic of) Samsung is supposed to announce one of those soon. Though who knows if it'll even be available outside of Asia.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

No one wants a Samsung, it's the Burger King of tech

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

It's threatening the security of my Apple stocks

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

i know this will be controversial here but both bad. Technological megacorpos and monopolies have too much power.

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lmao, yeah you should buy a small-batch, artisan checks notes modern smartphone instead.

[–] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I will eventually get it, my current phone still has a lot of time in it but even the fairphone is running android and you need google services if you want to use your banking apps...

[–] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see everyone complain about banking apps not working, and what exactly is wrong with the banking websites?

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They often don't let you in without being registered to an app:(

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Go to an ATM ride a bike

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Huawei is employee owned. Further, it exists in a socialist economy and is subject to state control, it isn't Huawei that has power over the economy, but the state that has power over Huawei.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

China is definitely capitalist. How can they have competitive pricing? Slavery, like everyone else, and of course a shitload less regulation. Edit: Capitalism rewards abuse.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The PRC has a socialist market economy. The large firms and key industries are thoroughly publicly owned, public owmershio is the principle aspect of the economy. They are at a developing stage of socialism. As for working conditions, they are improving over time, and general material conditiond have skyrocketed over the last century.

Capitalism would be somewhere like the US Empire, where the large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly privately owned.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wow, It's actually better, then unregulated capitalism, but I still wouldn't call it socialism. Thanks for the info.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago

No problem! What would it take for you to consider it socialist, though? The principle aspect of the economy is public ownership, so that should be enough by most standards to distinguish it from capitalism, where private ownership is the principle aspect.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's "employee owned" but still has a CCP Party Committee that makes decisions. Chinese companies have historically created backdoors in both software and hardware, and have no issues with stealing proprietary data, code, or designs.

Ignorance of security concerns is pretty much akin to the saying, "Well, I have nothing to hide. Who cares if the government spies on me." It's not just the US government saying it, it's pretty much any security company or individual worth their salt saying it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

I just said Huawei exists in a socialist economy and is subject to state control, I was quite literally referencing the CPC Party Committee that ensures Huawei cooperates with collective planning. Further, the CPC, even if we considered them to be evil (which I don't, for the record), still would be preferable over US-based companies as I'm a US citizen.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Why does the title say liberals when those are things conservatives say

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives are a subset of liberalism.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

this one hurts; i had to stop using my favorite redmi phone because american carriers have banned chinese phones.

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

WTAF? The cope of failing at capitalism is real.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i think it's less about failing capitalism and more about eliminating competition for for high end smart phones since you can get iphone level quality phones at chinese prices.

my redmi was competitive with the $1k+ google pixel, but costed less than half; now it's an expensive paperweight.

[–] considine@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, that's pretty much what I meant. In theory, the best brands would rise to the top under capitalism. So the US brands have failed without state intervention.

Which model of redmi did you have? I currently use the Redmi Note 12. It's... okay. I had a previous Xiaomi (can't remember which model) that I thought was an excellent price for high quality.

Definitely Chinese phones have better specs for their prices, as compared to US/Korean brands. Still, I'm looking for that special deal of a mid-tier-priced phone with flagship specs. Considering getting the Oneplus 13.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

i had a redmi note 13 pro+ and it was definitely the closest you're going to for mid-tier price that's competitive with flagship tier specs; especially w the camera, screen and battery.

Yes, that’s pretty much what I meant. In theory, the best brands would rise to the top under capitalism. So the US brands have failed without state intervention.

it's definitely capitalism since government intervention is not what banned the phones. the american carriers themselves colluded with each other to block the phones on their networks so it's the worst form of capitalism; it's monopoly capitalism and exactly like the type of capitalism that the american robber barons employed during the gilded age.

there's no need for the state to intervene and americans are too unaware that this happened for there to ever be a push to reject it; like with almost everything else.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have a blacklist of Chinese phone imea numbers

[–] dan@literature.cafe 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

spoofing your imea is illegal in the united states, so i've been unable to find sufficient documentation on how to do it.