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What the fuck?
Fuck that, isn't this just a maintained fork of clementine??
And I tried this player, it's nothing special
I could understand a permanent nag button like nanazip, but $60/year where most of the hard job (libraries, decoders, base ui) was done by someone else for free?
I'm blacklisting this shit even if I'm a Linux user
What is wrong with this policy? Strawberry is GPL, this sounds like the dev is committed enough to FOSS to not care too much about issues that come up on proprietary operating systems. This is very obviously not going to bring in a lot of money, how many people do you picture using windows or mac who think strawberry is so much better than other options that it's worth paying for? They're not advertising this in any way, there's no plot to trick poor souls into paying.
It strikes me as an easy and effective way to dismiss without argument bugfix requests on operating systems the developer doesn't care to touch. It's saying we don't want to neglect any users on other platforms that sincerely care about our project, but otherwise we just want to prioritze FOSS, so let's write off essentially all proprietary OS users while providing an avenue in case someone actually does care about our project that much.
easy and effective way to dismiss without argument bugfix requests on operating systems the developer doesn’t care to touch
if you ask $60/year to each user to support an operating system, then it's better to have first-class support with maximum issue priority
This is the most expensive music player app ever commercialized
Which is the reason I thought it was obvious that no one will pay that without a sincere affinity for the project in some way beyond just using the app itself. Who do you imagine would pay here just to get access to the player? You're talking about this like it's a scam, but a scam has an intended target audience that we can at least imagine.
I can't picture someone choosing to buy a $60 subscription to this with no reason other than being a windows user who is dead-set on using strawberry over any other music player. There's no way the devs are raking in cash from windows users. They'll maybe get a couple people who like strawberry because they are already foss advocates and are forced to use windows on one of their pcs, ie people who already understand what strawberry's development priorities will be and also understand that what they are buying could be built from source code without paying.
It's essentially a policy to ignore those operating systems except when someone cares enough to make a donation, under the reasonable assumption that bug reports from donors will still be worth their time. Windows users who have no knowledge about the project beyond "it plays music" will not shell out $60 by mistake. Literally no one is aware of strawberry's existence but unaware of alternatives.
The way he wrote shows he's more concerned taking down "pirate" versions of compiled files rather than the trouble of supporting windows users
I've worked many hours attempting to get these sites to remove the content, and I've managed to remove most of them
This is a GPL project. Other than restrictions on relicesnsing, the one thing the GPL doesn't allow is redistributions with the same name and logo, because anyone could rebuild the source code with malware added and the developer would be perceived as responsible.
You, today, can literally rebuild strawberry with a changed logo and name, and write "my program exactly strawberry except with a changed logo and name" and make that repository publicly available for free and it cannot be taken down as long as it is licensed the same way. No developers are losing sleep over lost sales from piracy of their GPL program. Otherwise they would not use the GPL in the first place.
If a developer sees that their program is being rehosted on codeberg with the same name and logo, what steps do you think they should take to verify that the binaries being shared were not rebuilt from the publicly available source code with a cryptominer added? I can't think of a way to prevent that other than requiring a name and logo change and taking it down otherwise. It's not enough to verify just once, because the new code author could change a legit binary to an infected one at any time.
And, again, there is no target audience for this "scam". What do you believe might motivate the kind of customer who would regret purchasing this to pay for it in the first place? There is no need to litigate possible reasons why something might be a malicious moneymaking scheme when there is no imaginable target that would be victimized.
I wouldn't even look at it or think of it on windows.
what do you think the best local music/mp3 player?
VLC.
Else it's Jellyfin Web/Jellyfin Media Player on PC or for smartphone it's Symfonium and Finamp
Not the person you responded to, but on Linux, i think quod libet is the best for me. On Windows, (still) foobar2000.
Tauon.
Failing that mod+cantata (although I think this is not really maintained anymore).
Literally just use Winamp. You’re on windows, it’s windows amp. Winamp.
Yeah but that poor llama
I've been using Rhythmbox since the first time I tried linux in 2016 on Ubuntu.
Tauon and audacious are the only ones I've found that handle large libraries well. I use Tauon(or mpv if just playing a single file).
fooyin. It's foobar2000 clone but fully FOSS. It's also adding a lot of features that foobar2000 does not have.
I check the fooyin is quite buggy. I changed the player layout. But, the music tracks is gone and I need to restart the app again.
Yeah, it's a little bit unstable as it basically a totally new project. Surely promising though!
I played around with u/mttw_ edited build.yml and, added an additional update.yml
With these two workflows you should be able to clone SMP and build your own Windows and Mac versions by just running the build.yml action. Takes about 30 minutes to build.
**build.yml ** was changed so that it is run manually. I also adjusted how the attach job worked (as it was just being skipped). Now when build is finished it should attach them all as a new release in your repo. **You will need to edit this file with notepad and add your account name and repo name. **
**update.yml ** is just so that you can have your repo automatically update to the original SMP repo. It is set to check once a day. This is so when you run build.yml it is build the latest version.
Don't really want to link to my specific repo so I have put the yml files on fileroy
build.yml - https://fileroy.com/dkD3YlxlmLQK/file
update.yml - https://fileroy.com/2bJG8KVDzOBE/file
I am the author of Strawberry Music Player and I would like you to remove it from the winget package manager.
The source code repository and releases from https://codeberg.org/WetOtter44/StrawberryMusicPlayer that you use as source for these packages are not official. It is an unofficial clone of the official source code repository for Strawberry Music Player (https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry), with misleading releases tagged to the wrong commits. If this was a valid fork, it should be renamed to not misrepresent our community project, and any links should not point to our bug tracker and support forum. The person who uploaded these were given the binary installations files from me for testing purposes, he has since proven willing to harm the project, I won't share his real name, but as you can see by the profile on codeberg he is anonymous for these reasons. He may upload releases containing malicious executables. The official Windows releases for Strawberry Music Player are given to users on request, I do not want it included in a package manager where users can install Strawberry Music Player without any information on how to fund the project.
First part valid, but last sentence lol. Open source go brrrr.
Bit strange, the Strawberry app itself already mentions how to donate in the Help/About Strawberry window. Maybe the dev could distribute the Windows/MacOS binaries and simply code in a massive donation pop-up when the OS detected <> Linux.
@brickfrog @far_university1990 The dev saying it's about "information on how to fund the project" is being... misleading. Windows binaries from the project are paywalled, so alternate builds being distributed via Winget presents a pretty clear threat to that funding by being free and more convenient.* They're well within their right to not distribute their own builds for free, but the misleading way it's framed here is not endearing... especially given this is a fork of another piece of FOSS software that will happily provide you Windows builds.
* As an aside, it really is so much better to have stuff distributed by a package manager. Who the hell wants to download an installer from Patreon for every new release, honestly. Some devs drive me crazy with their insistence on asinine distribution channels.
Post title misleading, Strawberry project still up and running at https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry , coincidentally I had just installed it on Debian 13. Then saw this post saying Strawberry was taken down except that it wasn't.
Like the other comment says this is just about unofficial binaries that were floating around. That said it's kind of a bummer that Windows/Mac users can't download pre-compiled binaries from their github page. Maybe someone can create a script that does the downloading/compiling for those OSes similar to how some ffmpeg scripts do it e.g. https://github.com/UBTL/ffmpeg-windows-build
Yes, I updated the title. But, I do not think the author happy with the fork that promote automated compiling because as it said from the takedown post it disrupt the subscription fees
I was wondering when that repo showed up and all of a sudden there were 50k downloads of the windows version if this might happen.
The coderberg fork was linked directly to the main strawberry page where the source code is and it's pretty obvious the downloads were just the same as any subscriber executables.
I highly doubt the story that the person behind the fork was given binaries for testing. My guess is it was just a subscriber sharing their downloaded executables.
The whole malware argument the creator made is fear mongering.
Its odd he charges $7/month for subscribers on Patreon but its only $5 if you pay via Kofi.
Well i've setup a fork and modified the workflow file to build windows and macos: https://github.com/PorcoDio00033/strawberry/actions/runs/17040509548
I've not tested those binaries because i dont use that player, but they should work because entire workflow ran without errors.
The original repo already builds both windows + macos binaries, but it pushes them to a private server, not publically in actions/releases.
Paywalling binaries doesnt make sense lol
Cloned the repo and ran the actions. Works like a charm. Setup a Kofi I'd much rather give you $5
Note: github will not let you build arm64 as a private repo
Submit to winget under different name ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Patreon takes a 20% cut of your income right off the bat. This is with the 8% platform fee option, and when you stack it on top of the payment processing fees, that's what it comes out to be.
kofi is a bit lower but I don't know the details there.
But it makes sense to pass those fees on to the subscribers.
Yeah that's kind of what I figured but not sure why a customer would just choose the more expensive option.
It's easier for me to us Patreon, because I'm already supporting a few other people/organizations there.
I've never used Ko-fi for a subscription.
Fair enough. I'm cheap so I'd quibble over the extra $2/month 😂
https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry this not it?
Edit:
The program is free software, released under GPL. If you like this program and can make use of it, consider sponsoring or donating to help fund the project.
Illegal not provide source.
the problem is the original Windows and macOSX is version are paywalled. The codeberg version are the compiled versions and the free alternatives
You can still compile it from source.
convenience especially with winget is still the best and not everyone is the developer