The difference is that mobile phone hardware is commonly more locked down by default than x86 hardware. Whatever phone you have now likely has some weird shit on it that makes it really difficult to do anything but what the manufacturer wants you to do. What Microsoft is trying to do with Win11 and TPM 2.0, has basically already been done with many brands of smartphone. I've been trying to research affordable smartphones to daily drive that are also de-googled, and hours of research has resulted in me struggling to use a pinephone. The hardware, the software, they're just not there, either. It's not like desktop Linux where really it's better than Windows if you give it a chance. Mobile FOSS OSes might be daily drivable if you try really hard.

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If Android sideloading needs to be verified by googld for "Security" then Maybe IOS seems like a viable option (except for the price and price to repair) but man i wish Linux on smartphones Has a good ecosystem of apps.

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[–] melimosa@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 month ago

My phone is not an airport. It's a garbage collection machine found in a trash, with a battery so it looks portable. I don't need an ID to use it, nobody will ever need.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 month ago

xcuse me what the hell

[–] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

The android dream is over. It was fun while it lasted. My next phone will be linux

[–] Brunette6256@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can we have mainstream Linux phones now. Fairphone is nice

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

They can't even handle the apps on their store...

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 15 points 1 month ago

golly gee whiz it sure looks like I'm finally getting around to getting off the stock android on my Pixel, I've been lazy and dragging my feet for some time. Thanks, Google, this is just the kick in the pants I needed!

[–] xcjs@programming.dev 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Let Google know what you think: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfN3UQeNspQsZCO2ITkdzMxv81rJDEGGjO-UIDDY28Rz_GEVA/viewform

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And in one fell swoop, Google just took a baseball bat to its own kneecaps.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That's a sure way to get me off of your OS. FAFO I've already dropped M$ products.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If you have a non-Google build of Android on your phone, none of this applies. However, that's a vanishingly small fraction of the Android ecosystem outside of China.

Linux-based Android build when?

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[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Use alternative ROMs while that's still an option.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 14 points 1 month ago

This is complete BS

[–] red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As Samsung is blocking custom ROMs with OneUI 8, I seriously need to look into alternatives. Does anyone have good experience with a custom ROM on a S25 Ultra? The only thing I really worry about are my banking apps. I need those to work.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use /e/OS, my office mate uses Graphene. All our banking apps (I have like 3, lol) work flawlessly. However, once you go down this road, there is always a chance that they stop working in the future, as Google introduces more bullshit like this or Play Integrity.

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