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This is actually from 2022, but I missed it back in the day. This is quite important research imo, and very relevant lately. Link to the paper itself: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563222001637

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You hear that, sexists? It's all in you. Can't blame the games. 🙂

[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

As a dude, I exclusively use female characters to get gifts in multi-player games

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 165 points 2 days ago (9 children)

if someone is not able to distinguish between fiction (regardless of the medium) and reality, then the problem is much deeper than pearl-clutching religious fanatics insist on believing, and will NOT be solved by abolishing all the "bad" fiction

i would argue that religion itself plays a large part in developing these problematic attitudes from early childhood, especially towards sex

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 105 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean constantly displaying sexuality as evil and interest in it as sinful leads to a unhealthy sexuality? Say it ain't so

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. set the rules in opposition to fundamental human (i.e., mammalian) instincts
    1b. punishment is unimaginable suffering for eternity
  2. everyone lives a guilt-ridden life full of shame
  3. leverage for control in every aspect of life (i.e., slave congregation)
  4. ???
  5. profit. a fucking lot

side effects of psychological damage, suicide, sociopathic tendencies, etc. don't matter in the slightest to the people collecting your tithes and controlling your behavior-- so, rather the same as social media

tl;dr: people in a perpetual state of unfulfillable desire are easy to control

[–] Nima@leminal.space 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

i think if less tolerance for religion became more commonplace, it might be better for mental health in general honestly.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the issue is not "religion" because that's hard to define. What do you count as a religion and what not? It's kinda not clearly defined. I.e., you can "believe" in science, yet does the belief make it a religion?

I think what's more the issue is the fact that people cling to nonsensical statements and are unwilling to look at things the way they are. I.e. a recurring theme of religion is that it absolves people from thinking, i.e. from making their own thoughts and relating those to reality. That is the thing that must be dealt with.

In other words, people must be taught to think and analyze the world around (and inside of) them. That is what leads to wellbeing and happyness.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 1 day ago

religion is an issue. and its not difficult to define.

i agree with your second paragraph. its why i think its time to start being less hospitable to any and all religion.

the less religion the world has, the better that people can be educated as you've said.

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[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 days ago (35 children)

I mean sexualized movies with skimpy ladies and jacked dudes, and smut books are not harmful broadly speaking, so I don't really see why video games would be different.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I would think repression is worse for people but it’s neat.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (10 children)

now do a research on the effect of lolis (young sexualized girls) in japanese media and whether it has an effect. i wouldn't be surprised if the outcomes were similar, yet lots of people still whine about it.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago

It's almost like there's another reason for censorship

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago (35 children)

Skimming their data tables (don't have access to the journal outside of work), it feels like a really broad hodge pdge of semi-related studies (which the authors essentially admitted).

But it also kind of misses the point. The problem isn't titties or dicks in video games. The problem is the culture around it and what it reinforces and it very much goes far beyond video games. Big jiggly titties? You are a mature game. Dick size slider so you can rock a magnum dong that needs a monster condom? You are progressive. What? Both of those are just more male gaze?

And all of that is normalized. You won't see a significant change from the baseline because that IS the baseline.

You know what you almost never see (outside of those "problematic gay games that turn the kids into litter boxes")? A sexy twink. We all made the same joke about Lies of Timothee Chalamet being one of the better souslikes of the past decade but it is also very telling that we mostly see our twinks in full stillsuits or twelve layers of Victorian clothing. Look, but have enough chastity belts that nobody needs to be worried about being able to touch. And the moment you have a woman who doesn't have an hourglass figure? See: The Last Of Us 2.

Which is the issue. We have a cult of toxic misogyny that insists everything MUST be male gaze and the only acceptable nudity is big titty girls and guys who look like Ahnold. And any divergence from that is "ruining games" or "being woke" to the point that we don't even GET those games outside of the rare case of a game nobody cared about becoming popular (I'll always cite that Yasuke was a recurring character in Nioh long before people turned him into a culture war).

Its like saying that gas stoves cause no meaningful decrease in air quality but having every study take place in the home of a pack a day smoker.

[–] hisao@ani.social 1 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

A sexy twink.

Plenty in gachas, jrpgs, and such, imo.

We have a cult of toxic misogyny that insists everything MUST be male gaze and the only acceptable nudity is big titty girls and guys who look like Ahnold. And any divergence from that is “ruining games” or “being woke”

I think in heated discussions about "DEI slop" people mostly complain about women being desexualized rather than anyone else being sexualized. Do you have any examples of games where in addition to women being sexualized there were twinks or someone else being sexualized and people insisted that only women should be sexualized but not those other groups? Think of BG3 - it goes beyond regular "male gaze" but it's still widely beloved because it's more inclusive to wide range of appeals including regular ones.

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