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I'm a little confused by some of the discussion. Surely the problems they're talking about with variations in the test system also apply to windows. You result can be affected by:
- Which windows updates have been applied
- Which version of the drivers have been installed
- What other software is on the system
Linux is the same, but they seem to be more concerned about it. Can someone explain?
Gamers nexus blocks updates on every test round. When they do update their test systems they block updates and retest all hardware in their charts. The software is also the same, besides platform or driver specific software. They truly go for reproducible and as less unknown factors as possible, hence the discussion
I think a big part of why they talked about it in the video is to explain their base assumptions for the test. They've discussed it with Windows enough that they don't need to say those anymore, but the Linux tests are new.
In addition, they do need to change theur workflow simply because they can't use the same software and scripts for Linux.
They're also addressing the reputation that Linux has among Windows users, even if that reputation is outdated
This is great. Honest people like Steve and Wendell are great for Linux. Let's make sure, as a community, we don't give them a hard time about their distro of choice. I think bazzite is an excellent choice to start until they get comfortable digging deeper into the system.
Not everyone wants or needs to dig deeper though. If Bazzite meets all of someone's needs, good. The vast majority of people want an OS that just works out of the box.
Very true. I guess I could have phrased it better. But you're right, not everyone needs to dig deeper into Linux, a lot of us want to just enjoy their system that just works. I'm actually one of those people.
This should be a rule anyway, no shitting on people's preffered distros!
It should, but few of us follow, unfortunately. :/
I'm a little surprised that they are planning on testing downstream distros like bazzite. It would make more sense to just stick to the biggest upstream distros like Arch/Debian/Fedora for benchmark purposes in my opinion.
If it works and helps bringing new people over to Linux, why not?
They're aiming for "something the viewer can achieve themselves".
99% of ex-Windows users won't be going for Arch, Debian or Fedora. It's supposed to be easy to get in, difficult to screw up.
And it's a channel aimed at gamers. Seeing Wendell serving as advisor gives me hope that they can get good results and i agree with the choice of distro
I disagree. Keep in mind that most people seeing the benchmarks will be windows users, and seeing Bazzite's gaming performance along with it's reputation for simplicity to set up and may help convince them to switch. Plus, anyone that had experience with Linux will know the link between it and Fedora, and can adjust expectations for theur particular distro
As someone using bazzite, it just works out of the box and I think that's exactly what a lot of the windows uses are looking for.
Bazzite would make it very easy to reproduce the same result. Just pull the exact version they used, set Proton and you're done
This is definitely something that has been coming for some time. Yes, I am a little surprised it has taken this long for a major channel know for hardware reviews for gamers to take this step... I would have thought that the popularity of the Steam Deck, and all of the handhelds that are now running Linux would have been a motivator.
But it seems that Steve is really seeing that there is more of a progression of people not wanting to go to Windows 11, and the issues surrounding Microsoft's insistence on adding creepy features that no one asked for (like Recall) as the push they needed.
And I agree, Bazzite is probably one of the best choices that they could make. The immutability of the system will allow them to have consistent images that won't change on them randomly. That is a definite requirement when dealing with this type of benchmarking.
This is interesting because theres not a ton of direct Windows vs. linux game benchmarking, and now there's about to be. GN churns though a lot of hardware and testing.
And excellent, because being linux, drawing attention to issues increases the chances of them getting fixed, whereas that is hardly the case for Windows.
Arch (with KDE I presume?) + Bazzite is not bad either. There's a lot of handwaving over they should have chosen this or that distro, but they're both very popular in the gaming space, so I feel that's fairly representative of many distros.
And excellent, because being linux, drawing attention to issues increases the chances of them getting fixed, whereas that is hardly the case for Windows.
This is the most important part of this whole thing to me. Imagine Nvidia watching Steve shitting on them for having horrible drivers on Linux and millions of people seeing that.
This is genuinely a new era in gaming, so exciting!
Can we count the mainstream tech tubers in recent months that have done these Linux/Bazzite videos?
- As much as I hate ETA Prime, I think he was one of the first
- PewDiePie
- Toasty Bros
- J2C
- Dawid Does Tech
- Ctrl Alt Rees
- Digital Foundry
- Lon.TV
- Chris Titus
- LTT soon
DankPods my beloved as well. He’s not very technical with software so it’s quite interesting to hear him talk about it.
Thid is great, from English speaking channels I only know AncientGameplays doing linux benchmark comparisons to Windows on gaming. *Spoilers: If you use AMD you're not leaving performance on the table, if you're team green... it's a work in progress.
RT is currently still shit on Linux, but I don't use it anyway.