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What an odd thing to say...

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This puts a spin on the article (which, admittedly, could have its own spin), that smells disingenuous.

She wasn't saying "yeah, those bozos will be fine in our shoddy bots run down grannies on the crosswalk", in a mask-off moment. The article was saying Waymo expects someone will be fatally struck by one of their vehicles eventually, but society will have accepted (Waymo's) driverless cars enough by then that it won't break the company. "They'll see Waymo is so much safer than normal drivers even if it still does cause some accidents." type shit.

It's still wishful corpo-speak but there's no reason to mislead.

Edit: I understand that it is the headline of the article itself but we should do better than regurgitating and echoing clickbait titles.

[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

mainstream "journalism" is about rage baiting engagement. Anytime an article has an inflammatory title about what someone says 95% of the time they are being misquoted. In these hundreds of comments I've only seen your comment mentioning that. No one questions anything anymore, if its about something they don't like then it must be true. Even though the futurism article directly links the article its talking about and the full quote/context of what the ceo was saying. I'm not a fan of waymo (and certainly not google's evil ways) but facts seem to be a distant ancient theory these days. Pitchforks first then think later.

idk if the author chose that title maybe its futurism itself but a more accurate description would have been something like "our cars are safe but we are also prepared/preparing for when something bad happens". That doesn't get clicks tho.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

We can always make it not so voluntary.

[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago
[–] piecat@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Society wasn't even ready for a waymo to kill a cat

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Amazing how far the US will go to not use rail and maintain dependency on cars.... just wow.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

developing the fast rail system, at least in california, it was blocked by musk and the gop(elaine chao in trumps 1st term, mitch mcconells wife). cali never tried again.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We will make the most complex convoluted contrivances before laying down steel and locomotives. Funny part I always liked about the I, Robot movie. No, we didn't have public transport, everyone just has self-driving cars on roads controlled by a centralized AI.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

lol. What a time to be alive my friend.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago
[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bold to say that openly. Will be used in court later.

[–] Krudler@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

"Knew or should have known"

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

CEOs are generally heartless asshats.

fucking what?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ours@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe that someone is a CEO?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 6 days ago

I would not shed a tear if that happened.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Hopefully one of the AI-touting CEOs first.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

On Reddit they were celebrating Waymo coming to London

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

tesla already beats them there, in the testing department.

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 days ago

Sounds like she's volunteering.

[–] mech@feddit.org 198 points 1 week ago (18 children)

one passed a stopped school bus that was unloading kids in Atlanta. That’s a violation that normally garners $1,000 fine and a court hearing, but nothing was issued to the company.

“These cars don’t have a driver, so we’re really going to have to rethink who’s responsible,” said Georgia state Representative Clint Crowe to Atlanta news station, KGW8.

No? The company has a mail address. Send them the notice and summons to court, just like you would for the owner of a regular vehicle.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 96 points 1 week ago

When it's time for money: COMPANIES ARE PEOPLE TOO!

When it's time for punishment: but you can't hold a company responsible, it's not just one person.

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not that odd. Death by car is easily accepted by society. They are "accidents" and a "necessary evil" for society to function.

There's around a million people dying from cars every year and we just shrug and normalize them. Human or not, we just have to have cars and "accidents" are just that.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), road traffic injuries caused an estimated 1.35 million deaths worldwide in 2016. That is, one person is killed every 26 seconds on average.

Nobody cares about cars killing people and animals. So she's probably right.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

More so when you take her actual statement in context: that they're actually reducing deaths by being safer. The comments on lemmy are turning out to be just as biased and ungrounded in reality as they were on Reddit.

Waymo robotaxis are so safe that, according to the company’s data, its driverless vehicles are involved in 91 percent fewer crashes compared to human-operated vehicles.

And yet the the company is bracing for the first time when a Waymo does kill somebody — a moment its CEO says society will accept, in exchange for access to its relatively safer driverless cars.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It probably happened already and they're trying to get ahead of the news.

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[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

At some point we have to accept vehicular deaths given how car-centric our society is and how distracted and unsafe a lot of drivers have become.

Normal taxi drivers kill people.

Normal truck drivers kill people.

Normal home to work drivers kill people.

If a robotic taxi can lower the taxi category of accidents by 91% across the board, including death rates, then that's a positive improvement to society any way you slice it. Not saying it isn't a horrifying dystopian world we're potentially building, but at the moment, given the numbers, it would be 91% safer in that category.

The ultimate solution is to shift towards more public transit options in general, and away from individual vehicular transport. Not only is it a massive burden to the environment, but it's a massive cost burden to the individuals and society as a whole.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

yeah… very much public health attitude

[–] hammertime@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Watch “Upload” on prime. Literally about this.

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[–] yogurt@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Instead of running a red light or hitting a pole self-driving cars drive full speed under a trailer and decapitate everybody, or someone falls against the car and it detects an accident and decides to pull over and slooowly runs over the person and drags them down the street ignoring all the screaming. The kind of accidents society is desensitized to are the ones they taught the car how to avoid, the fucked up shit where somebody gets hydraulically pressed to death in slow motion while 15 people film it on their phones is what Waymo is going to do.

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[–] verdi@feddit.org 28 points 1 week ago

I think society is ready and eager for CEOs to be hunted like animals, as the United Healthcare case showed.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I feel like most of the comments in here didn't even bother reading the article before grabbing the pitchforks.

Waymo robotaxis are so safe that, according to the company’s data, its driverless vehicles are involved in 91 percent fewer crashes compared to human-operated vehicles.

And yet the the company is bracing for the first time when a Waymo does kill somebody — a moment its CEO says society will accept, in exchange for access to its relatively safer driverless cars.

In context, without the clickbait headline, that's a really reasonable take. They accept that statistically, they're safer but due to large numbers and randomness a fatality will eventually happen. And logically, it's preferable to the alternative of many fatalities happening.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

I think the reaction here means that the CEO is wrong. People care more about revenge and punishment than about harm reduction. They prefer more deaths on the road as long as it's humans doing the killing, because we can put them in jail.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Public transit is safer than your insanely expensive individualized transit solution.

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