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[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

A meme like this is what happens when you believe the GOP that doing anything to benefit regular people is communism.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can I ask which country you're from ?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're asking an account that hasn't been active in four months, in an eleven month old thread.

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[–] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am from Eastern Europe and I share this sentiment when I see anyone from the West defending communism. The issue is complicated but, to put it bluntly:

No, Timothy, communism didn't fail in Eastern Europe because it was implemented wrongly. This is a very complicated topic but the tldr summary is "It is a broken idea, it did not work and it will never work. The natural and logical outcome of any attempt at Marxism is a bloodbath followed by autocracy."

That being said, communism isn't the only way to achieve a more equitable society. You have social democracy (in Lennin's words - communism's greatest adversary); organized labour movements; collectivist anarchism; communitariasm, etc.

Communism, as applied in the 20th century, violently fought against or oppressed all of these movements and is incompatible with any of them.

Not to mention that in most countries nowadays orthodox communists have been hugely discredited for excusing the Russian war of annihilation against the Ukrainian people.

In conclusion, if you live in the USA or Western Europe and you are unhappy with how corporate greed has ruined society, don't look to communism for answers. There are many other proposed solutions out there - go and research these. Communism is very well known, which makes it easily accessible to people who want change - but it is never, ever the solution.

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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Educated people in general have to say on politics the same things that I said earlier, but they are very nostalgic over less criminalized popular culture, better technical education and rules being followed. So am I to some extent actually.

In Moscow? You're not being fair. Educated people in the soviet union from Moscow lived extremely well and have very positive views. Engineers, scientists, etc will all say positive things. You know as well as I do that hundreds of video interviews will confirm this. Be fairer, claiming that everyone that supports the ussr among the over 60s is just uneducated is definitely untrue. This particular video series is in Moscow and this lady is exactly what I am talking about.

You can't live in Moscow and say this is untrue. You're being unfair.

No recollection at all, I’m 1996, but since transition from USSR to modern Russia didn’t happen in an instance, in various institutions and organizations you can still see in some ways how it was. More in my childhood than now, but still.

Brought up in shock therapy then.

if you weren’t in denial.

I'm not in denial. I'm asking you to be fairer. The data does not support your position. You know as well as I do that 75% of the country consider the soviet era to be when the country was at its greatest (and that this is easily verifiable from many sources), and you know damn well that 75% of the country aren't all uneducated people. You are not being fair.

[–] DytallixB@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No communism, but socialism yes.

And yes, I am from east Europe

[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Well we're not praising fascism and corruption.

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[–] PASAQUALIA@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

It's funny because if you look at living standards in eastern Europe during communism's peak they were wayyy better than they are now

[–] thevoyagekayaking@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh man, Lemmygrad will not like this one bit.

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