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Hello, i am currently looking for a Linux distribution with these criteria:

-it should be more or less stable, comparable to Ubuntu with or without LTS // -it should not be related to IBM to any way (so no fedora/redhat) // -it should not feature snaps (no Ubuntu or KDE neon) // -KDE plasma should be installable manually (best case even installed by default) // -no DIY Distros //

I've been thinking about using an immutable distro, but if anyone can recommend something to me, I'd be very grateful //

Edit: I'm sorry for the bad formatting, for some reason it doesn't register spaces

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Regarding your post formatting, you need to put a space between the bullet point and the first character of the line:

  • Like this (hit view source/view markdown on my comment to see)
[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

stable ✅
technically comparable to Ubuntu ✅
not related to IBM ✅
doesn't feature snaps ✅
KDE plasma ✅
not DIY ✅

WCGW

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

When you start getting super specific about which distro you want, I think you should start looking towards a DIY distro.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
  • yet another vote for Debian
  • or if you’re going immutable (“atomic” is a better name) then wait for Vanilla OS’s Orchid to be released (currently in Beta) – a little more user-friendly than NixOS (although that will depend on the documentation)
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

VanillaOS is unstable as hell. Also their atomic model is not image-based but uses a regular package manager underneath. This makes it way less controlled, transparent and resettable than Fedoras model.

I think Opensuses is similar, they also dont use images I think.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

What about Pop!_OS? It fits all the criteria. It's an Ubuntu distro by System76 (known for their computers that run Linux) that foregoes Snaps for Flatpaks, so you get Ubuntu's reliability/stability without the Snaps. It does default to its own spin on GNOME, however you can install an alternative desktop environment just fine.

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

kde neon don't use snaps

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Debian as others are saying is a great choice

But I'll still shill arch, I've literally never encountered a problem with it other than my first time installing manually being a learning experience. Not sure if it counts as a DIY distro bc you can definitely install with a script

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

If you use arch, you should do the "automatic snapshots" thing with BTRFS, grub and pacman hooks. That is important to have a version to rollback to, as its Arch.

@Luffy879 If someone comes from Windows and has little experience with Linux Mint LTS with XFCE4.
https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=313
With MX Linux (Debian based) you can create a live ISO with all packages and flat packs and then create a live USB stick with persistence (requires double memory on the Linux partition For the ISO)
https://mxlinux.org/
you can make installs from the usb after creating it.
Distrochooser
https://distrochooser.de/

[–] Starfish@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Debian Stable as base OS, then activate unstable repos in a sandbox/container. Maybe even Distrobox for newer Apps.

[–] ncln222@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

yes Debian, install latest MX Linux (23.2 AHS) and enjoy it, it's a great distro, up to date, well maintained. There is a KDE version where you can install latest kernel from their AHS repo (6.6.11 as time of writing)

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sorry, the closest i came up aren't good solution but may help in your search.

  • Vanilla OS 2 (based on Debian) but it is under Gnome DE and in beta phase. Very begginer friendly. Maybe once it go out from beta it will supports other DE ? So check it around 6th month later or 1 year ?

But the problem is that their community is very small. If you want something stable, it's better to look for bigger community so you can benefit from their support and user's problems

There is fedora kinoite but you don't want anything related to IBM. That was the best compromise i can found.

  • NixOS but i don't know it. I'm affraid it will be a DIY distro at the beggining with the config file. But it will probably meet all your criterias.

Or the same OS from my steamdeck :

  • Steam OS ? It's an immutable OS based on Arch and support KDE by default. Full support of flatpaks. Only downside, i dunno if it supports other machines than the steamdeck. Nor if it uses the latest linux kernel. Maybe some variants ?
[–] Sina@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

If Debian is too DIY for you, then you could try LMDE with the BTRFS filesystem and Timeshift for maximum safety and far less DIY.

[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 2 points 9 months ago

Linux mint. It's based on Ubuntu but they also snapped out the snaps.

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