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A newbie's guide to self-hosting with YunoHost. Part 5: Upgrades & Maintenance - elenarossini (blog.elenarossini.com)

submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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A post that explains how to keep a YunoHost server running healthily with system updates and how to run application updates (and revert back to a snapshot if things go awry).

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

This is personally where I have the most issues with yunohost. If something isnt kept up to date with their apps, updates can go wrong and break the app. Ive had this happen with Peertube, Pixelfed, and other services. You update and the service just stops working.

But still more had no issues at all. And the backup system that comes with the system makes it very nice.

Most of the time its a non-event to update and maintain the system. Im tempted to have two machines. One with stable apps in yunohost. And the other with experimental stuff like fediverse software with docker. One I can blow away if need be and one that uses rock solid services.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, YunoHost uses Docker?

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Na but you can totally just install it and use it. Ive done it before.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I've always wondered why they keep listing broken apps in their catalog. I guess in hopes someone fixes it.

[–] elettrona@poliversity.it 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

@irmadlad @selfhosted Tagging @yunohost for this.
-only fediverse app I have, is GoToSocial, didn't find something broken. But @_elena had her PeerTube instance destroyed. And once I had my castopod down -luckily I'm using castopod just for tests right now. But a system born to make selfhosters' life easier, shouldn't be broken like this. I think more skilled maintainers should work there.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

GoToSocial is rock solid! Yunohost or otherwise. Never seen it fail.

Mastodon though has failed on yunohost a couple of times which is unfortunate. I had better luck with docker.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Well, it's been a minute since I messed around with Yunohost. They used to list apps that didn't work in their catalog. Maybe they have cleaned that up over the years.

[–] elettrona@poliversity.it 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

@mesamunefire @selfhosted I'm thinking the same: YunoHost has given me a very good setup, but despite being very easy to manage, its "app store" echosystem is quite slow - updates coming later than original maintainers, and not many new additions.
Currently I'm on a hostinger and there's docker installed as well, but it'd be very expensive to manage both in 2 separate services.
I'll write about my story on this Lemmy community soon

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

Im glad im not alone haha.

Im a software developer for my day job. So the last thing I want to do is more debug on my own machine. Thats why I eventually used Yunohost. Its still working well for my family with most services! But fedi services in particular seem to have issues with updates.

But I have run piefed on my own systems for 6ish months and it was more stable than some of Yunohost apps. But I cant blame Yunohost for that...its just that its a collection of people that are working (for free!!) to make yunohost updates occur. And sometimes things go wrong. With docker, I can throw it away if need be, but requires more manual setup. Even with provisioning tools. And fedi services in particular are pretty brittle so I expect some downtime.