Hmm, haven't had to fire up Unbound for a while, and Technitium looks interesting (any opinions?) doesn't effect me yet, but it's good to have options. The internet finds a way, but ordering VPNs and DNS resolvers is a new thing I think. Wonder how well it will take.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude, just... No. Nobody is killing DNS. You can't remove that integral part of the system without a strong replacement worldwide.

"We'll have to ask the IP of the website we want to visit" Ask what, exactly? DNS is the resolver of domain name to IP, so unless everyone's going to keep a spreadsheet of the IPs they want to visit, you need DNS.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

DNS is the resolver of domain name to IP, so unless everyone's going to keep a spreadsheet of the IPs they want to visit, you need DNS

It's the point of the article, the DNS won't answer you in France when the website is on the banned list therefore if you want to visit the website you'll need to find out the IP linked to the hostname for example by asking:

Ask what, exactly?

the IP (As I said)

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not true, ordering companies to block DNS when they don't "operate" (hosting servers) in France, it'll likely do nothing. Just like the US going after non-US companies. They don't have to comply. Quad9 I would especially think wouldn't comply since they push for an open and private internet. Google will probably comply because they're Google and still want everyone's data they can get.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago

So that's not actually true with DNS exactly.

State actors can and have compelled ISPs to redirect DNS traffic. The most notable case I can remember is Turkey assuming control over Google's anycast address (8.8.8.8) via BGP hijacking to enforce Twitter bans (that was in 2014).

If we are talking DoT/DoH, then BGP hijacking has a more limited impact as there is encryption involved there, but it still requires IP routing the same as anything else, so modifying BGP routes would be effective if the goal was to break non-compliant DNS providers.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm think he's talking about public unfiltered DNS providers.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Liberté, igualité, censor the internité

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With the tendency certain countries to be autocratic, France included, I worry that may be the intent indeed, through using a legitimate reason to create a precedent for illegitimate ones.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

France:

We're moving to Linux and kicking Windows to the curb!

Also France:

Only we get to decide what you see on the internet in our borders, not you!

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 13 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, the move to Linux has nothing to do with user rights. That is strictly a move to become less reliant on the US as the US has become increasingly unstable.