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[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 5 points 12 hours ago

Great news!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

Misread the headline as removing instead of adding. Was very confused.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

I use a separate (free) email account just for Mastadon and Lemmy. I'm always using a VPN to connect and carefully limit identifiable info.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nice to see (some of) my taxes going to improving the Fediverse.

The Sovereign Tech Agency (previously Sovereign Tech Fund) is an organisation set up by the German government to fund critical open source projects. Mastodon receiving funds therefore means that the German government considers the Fediverse critical infrastructure.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago

Thank you for paying your taxes. I hope some of mine gets back to you in its own way as well.

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Vaguely remember that some European government agencies dropped X and started public communication via the Fediverse.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is great. I think one critique of the fediverse is the lack of privacy, so it's a welcome development.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I think one critique of the fediverse is the lack of privacy

What? By whom? How?

E: why am I being downvoted for asking a question?

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's one post about it. I'm not one for direct messaging on social media personally. And on centralized services it's true that your direct messages can be seen by employees if they're sufficiently motivated or by court order, hacks, that sort of thing. But on mastodon both the administrator of your instance and the admins of the instances of the people you're messaging can see your direct messages. Since an instance can be set up quickly by just one person, there's higher likelihood of access. That person may have no qualms about accessing private info, they may have insufficient resources for proper security, or to fight legal efforts to access information. A large company will in theory have more concern about reputational risk if it's uncovered they've accessed private information than some individuals will. I know many people running instances take great pride and care in what they do, but that's not always true.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Setting an instance is easy, but actually getting a significant amount of users is much more difficult. And as admin you can only see the private messages of your local users, no one else. So if you are not talking about illegal stuff the risk is negligible. And if you are, use a real messenger application or better yet avoid all computers.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a source you could share about admins only seeing the private messages of local users? That's not my understanding.

Take a look at this post or this one . They say that the admins of both the sending and receiving instance could decide to read your direct messages.

Privacy isn't just for illegal acts. (And plenty of laws are unjust) You're right that for truly sensitive communication it's better to choose a tool dedicated for that purpose. It can still be beneficial to add encrypted communication to direct messages.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes that is what I mean, admins can only see private messages that their own local users are either sending or receiving. Not from users on other instances.

I agree that privacy is important, but most admins probably couldnt care less what their users are writing in private messages. And there is a tradeoff between implementing end-to-end encryption, or implementing other features that may be more important.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, I mean, there is a lack of privacy. That's kind of how the platform exists architecturally. I just don't find that to be a problem, per se. It's a social platform, which makes sense to me for everything on the protocol to be "open" to one degree or another. Not everything has to be securitymaxxed.

[–] adhisimon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I agree with you. It's a social platform. Most people might think it's a nice feature, but I don't think E2EE is an urge.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What lack of privacy are you referring to?

[–] skaffi@infosec.pub 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The fact that everything you write, upload or otherwise do (boost, upvote, downvote, etc.) is never private in any way or at any point, on any platform using the ActivityPub protocol, including Mastodon, along with every other platform or service that's a part of the Fediverse, such as Lemmy or Piefed. Everything is out in the open, able to be seen by third parties.

This is by design, and it's what enables federation to take place between a multitude of servers aka. instances. So it's a trade off.

But properly implemented encryption could help to mitigate this to some degree. I think think most things won't meaningfully benefit from being encrypted, since most things on these platforms are meant to be publicly visible in the first place - such as this conversation you and I are having now. But it would certainly be nice to be able to have direct messages that are also for sure private messages. And I can imagine a couple of other things where encryption could also be meaningfully applied, to some extent.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

Private messages are completely private, you as normal user can never see someone elses private message. The only ones who can theoretically read private messages from other users are instance admins. Exactly the same on Reddit or Twitter by the way. But if any admin actually does that, people would quickly spread the word and leave that instance.

End-to-end encryption does add some extra security in that admins also cannot read other users private messages. I dont think that people really send very sensitive information through Lemmy private messages, it is better to use an actual messenger application for that.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you can claim there's a "lack of privacy" when things that are intended to be public...are made public.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Direct messages aren't intended to be public

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

As I said here, both the admin of the sending and receiving instances are able to view direct messages. If DMs are encrypted that's no longer a concern, which is why in my comment starting this thread I said this news was good.

[–] heartpunk25@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[–] artyom@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's pretty cool but they're also going to be subjecting themselves to a very high level of scrutiny.