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I downloaded the movie after seeing it in theatre to once again enjoy it from the comfort of my home. Seeing 2160p, I thought it's going to be a webcam rip but the title says webrip. Where is this leaked from that has Dolby Vision on a movie still in theatre?
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Quality is pretty bad, something off about it does not look right with Russian subs for visual words burned it
Bad quality, not even FHD :(
Not completely clean of burned in Russian subs. Otherwise quality looks good
so good chance you got an ai upscaled russian camrip
30 FPS would be a cam rip, no?
Just because they put webrip in the title doesn't make it so.
Its not unheard of for some scene peeps to get access to the raw digital files played in some theaters. It's uncommon because of the difficulty in acquisition and then sanitizing it so they can't figure out who ripped it, but does happen.
I'm really curious about the sanitation process. About the methods used to identify each copy, it has to be one of those cases of security by obscurity. I think it is a fascinating topic that I know nothing about.
IIRC digital cinema files are usually DRM locked in a special format and are also imperceptibly watermarked somewhere throughout the video. They're distributed to cinemas usually on physical hard drives/SSD's. I don't know anything about the security details other than that, off to YouTube it is!
I think I also remember from a reddit thread many moon ago that they need to be internet connected somehow, and can only be played on a scheduled time slot.
I know a cinema manager, and yes they (new releases) all need internet acces and are time locked aswell
Same, it makes me think about Reality Winner being caught because they knew which printer the documents came from.
The pages from the NSA's printers came with invisible tracking dots. This is a common feature in modern printers for forensics investigations
https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/reality-winner-nsa-leak-russian-hacking-printer-tracking-dots/
On any color printer there are yellow dots, which have plenty of data.
There's also ways to obfuscate them.
Couldn't one just take a B/W photocopy?
It's basically impossible to detect well-designed steganography (invisible watermark) unless you have access to the algorithm that writes or reads it, or multiple comparable copies of the media.
That is what makes it so fascinating to me. Do they work with the original files? Is it possible to capture the decoded data at some point before the projector?Is the watermark still present there?
Presumably the watermark is just going to be intractably encoded into the video file that's shipped to the theater. Doing it any other way wouldn't make sense.
If that was designed by me I would change slightly colors of some insignificant details across movie to find exact copy
Xbox apparently used to encode a console's serial number into the loading animation of the Xbox logo in the corner of your screen to figure out who broke NDAs within the company.
Hmm. That's a nice piece of info you got there. Thanks.
Back in the early DVD days the studios would hand out DVD "screener" copies to film critics and magazines for reviews. They were often ripped and passed around when films were still in theatres. Often they had a watermark or subtitles in a different language but were otherwise top quality.
Now it doesn’t work like that anymore. They have a site a special code to watch the movie
I'm currently helping organizing a film festival and it basically works like this. We got hundreds of password protected links to movies for screening, most of them on vimeo. I wouldn't hand them out though because these are all small productions.
Still happens for some cases like airplane movies. I know I've seen pirated movies that had the airline name pop up for a few seconds.
Surely you can’t be serious‽
I am serious. But don't call me Shirley.
if you have a good camera (2x number of pixels, and 2x colordepth than the movie), then you could make a camrip with perfect quality (assuming some calibration frames, and a cinema that gives no fuck). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyquist%E2%80%93Shannon_sampling_theorem
though I guess that's still too much effort for most, and most early leaks are digital copies, as the other comments suggest.
edit: newer comments suggest camrip with a bad camera
Edit is incorrect
Would that be like on a tripod in the audience area recording the screen? Seems lossy somehow so I figure I'm misunderstanding. I'm pretty ignorant (~fully ignorant lol) about this, apologies, ya just piqued my curiosity.
Would that be like on a tripod in the audience area recording the screen?
yes.
Seems lossy somehow
it is! but that's where Shannon sampling theorem comes in. The sampling only needs to be twice as good as the source, and then you can reconstruct the source perfectly. (with some assumptions, e.g. correct color gamut, focal point, etc.).
Ahhh nice! Familiar with that via aliasing below Nyquist frequency, different words for the same idea.
Would that be like on a tripod in the audience area recording the screen?
Fun fact: this is how films get digitized, they play the film in a tiny movie theater just big enough for the camera. The whole apperatus is about the size of a washing machine
One of the ways…
Wtf lol, that just seems so...low tech? I certainly can't think of a "better" way to do it, guess I imagined some fully enclosed (or maybe that's what you're describing).
It's like finding out almost all power generation is really just different ways of boiling water lol
Scanner is technically the same, it just bounces light off the object, rather than shining through it.
Hell 3D scanning is pretty cool and what I'd consider high tech, but it's still just bouncing waves off things and recording those!
I guess there's no escaping the universal fundamentals, or the limits of our technology at least
I would be a bit sceptical
My thoughts exactly, can't weigh an opinion on the quality unless I see it for myself.
Seemed pretty solid other than some random subtitles showing up when there is text on the screen
Default audio is in Spanish although English is available. Some but not all on-screen text has non removable Russian subtitles baked into the video. Could be worse.
The Spanish sub&dub with on screen Russian is confusing
oh shit then it makes sense!
Russia is currently ignoring copyright. like. for real, so any breach is currently completely ignored there
Not completely. They still somewhat respect Chinese copyright, and to some extent copyright of other eastern countries (Korea, India, Japan, etc)
Yes, it's the same file.
Probably from an obscure overseas streaming service you've never heard of
This version has hard coded Cyrillic overlay for written text. If you can put up with that, then yes, it's a great 2160p copy.
Yeah, it's a great copy. Still, I'd watch again when BluRay comes out.
I'm more confused by the cam capture listings dated 2025
Those are almost certainly fake. In my experience they're short clips of a video saying "you need to install xyz codec to play this video", which is malware.
Is it the one with hard coded cyrillic letters for english writing? That would give a hint about its origin.
Fetching the line audio from somewhere else could be much easier than the picture. Plus not all channels contain speech... so english 2ch could be sufficient if you got the other channels... elsewhere.
TLDR :no idea. :)
Yes. It has some letters I think, in some parts.
Probably telecine which is ripped right from the reel.
At 30 fps? If you have that equipment, you should be able to match the frame rate.
One of the few uses for AI is watermark removal 😏