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Trying to reverse climate change won’t save us, scientists warn (www.theverge.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We already have far more people than necessary jobs. One person with modern trchnology can produce way, way more than one person could even just a century ago.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not about necessary jobs, it's about paying into social security / pensions.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If the jobs aren’t necessary, then surely there’s a way to organize society without those jobs existing.

This is the fundamental argument behind universal basic income.

As to the question of how to fund stuff like pensions or UBI without everyone working, the answer is simply to tax those who are working more, especially those making huge amounts of money.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's not relevant to the "necessary jobs" thing you brought up.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Your response was

It's not about necessary jobs, it's about paying into social security / pensions.

In my answer those are two topics that are not directly related, although they are linked by both having to do with the economy.

Hence I gave responses to both topics.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The "necessary jobs" topic is unrelated to the "fund pensions" topic. And the "fund pensions" topic is the one that's being discussed in relation to population control.

You brought up a completely irrelevant topic, that's what I'm saying.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

It comes full circle because the proposed solution is to increase the number of people who are able to work, with the idea that those people will take on more jobs, and those jobs will fund pensions.

I think this is a bad idea because we already have more workers than useful jobs. An increase in the population wont really help.