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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)
[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Yes; "Luce" is Italian for "Light' and "Lucifer" is Latin for "light bearer". They are cognates.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I thought they spoke Latin in the Vatican, aren't they Latino? Otherwise how do we get such classical Christian idioms like "Romanes eunt domus"?

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Italian is a direct descendant of Latin (along with nearly every other Western language)

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There's Italian, Spanish, French, Portuguese...there are more Germanic-derived ones than Latin-derived, aren't there?

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Romanian, Catalan, Sicilian, Galician, Venetian, probably a number of other dialects, are also Latin descendants.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'd have to get a list of every country considered "western" and then figure out how many have predominantly Latin-derived and Germanic-derived languages. Too much work. "Nearly every" one of them would most certainly not be Latin-derived, though.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thankfully there’s an entire field of linguistics that’s already done the work. Quick Google search shows 22 Latin descendant languages, and 24 Germanic descendant languages. So slightly more, yeah.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks, my google-fu wasn't up to the task. That's about what I was expecting.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just blame AI, that's what's been working for me

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It has made finding actually useful information harder nowadays, but I'll still accept the blame for this one.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was thinking like... English.
Sure, it's got German and French and Greek and just a mess of everything, but there's a lot of Latin in there.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

English is a Germanic language that has had significant Latin and French (which added more Latin) injected into it over the years. It has to be the most mongrel widespread language in existence, which is probably why it's such a mess when it comes to spelling. Still, it also has a lot of flexibility and word choices because of it.

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