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[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If we were talking about banning cars entirely, that would be relevant.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh, some people do talk about banning cars completely. I guess you’re a fuck cars moderate lol. Local ordinances can really change the way people live in an area, like banning plastic bags etc. So it’s not unreasonable to worry about total bans, people who want less car usage policies should try to understand other perspectives.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People might talk about banning privately own cars, but nobody seriously talks about completely banning cars at all. Service vehicles have their place in a walkable city, and taxi and carsharing is part of that, and even the most fuck-cars people are in favour of those.
I mean, there is always someone with a weird position, but those are flat-earthers of the movement, nobody cares about those.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

I know. FuckCars in general is a purity contest that doesn't understand how certain things work. Cars are here to stay in our society for a variety of reasons, but that doesn't mean all our decisions for city planning have to center around them.

My city has less than 5% of people commuting by bike, and around 25% work from home. These numbers seem roughly typical of US cities. If we got 20% of people commuting by bike while keeping the work from home number, that would be transformative. That's a huge number of cars off the road. Basically like adding a whole lane of traffic, but without the induced demand problems.