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The parallels between Musk and Stark seemed perfect on paper. Both are billionaire tech innovators with a flair for the dramatic and dreams of changing the world.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't see it. Elon is a sociopath and doesn't care about people at all. He is autistic as well. The man would easily sacrifice others in a crisis, not fight for them.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Autistic people are generally the opposite from sociopaths, relative to norm.

However, we do, existing with ratio of like 1 in 200 people, get the experience with non-autistic people that makes us think of them similarly to how non-autistic people think of sociopaths.

As an autistic person, there are many cases about which I'd say that if I had the opportunity to press the red button sending nukes, I would press it, but in fact I most likely wouldn't, because autistic people are generally less compromising on justice and honesty. The decision to, say, sacrifice one good person to punish 1000 bad people is much harder for us than for "normal" people.

"Normal" people usually consider this trait a weakness, but then have the gall to accuse us of lacking empathy.

Also autistic emotions are stronger too - we just learn to control them, because otherwise it's be impossible to function. When you read something about homeless people, you just add that to your inner narrative of how your group is good and the other group is bad, you generally don't think about the matter itself. When we read something about homeless people, we feel ourselves on their place and temporarily lose the ability to eat, sleep and enjoy life.

However, getting back to your point - in things requiring one to be a better person autistic people are almost always better. It's a fact of the "you'd never have thought" genre exchanged in autistic communities that there are, in fact, bad autistic people. That's how rare it is.

I hope I have educated you.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you, but is it really fair to say they all autistic people are like you describe? Just like non-autistic people, there should be a a variety of behaviors in autistic people as well?

I was talking about Elon Musk here, not all autistic people.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pathological or caused by some condition traits are the big, notable ones. And personal differences are more subtle.

Just like, say, serial housing - Soviet microdistricts look all the same on the plan and even from the outside, and there are common tendencies with small crime and all that. But, of course, people living in each one of them are different, so is graffiti on the walls, illegal construction, potholes and pits, trees and bushes, garages, shops and playgrounds.

I was mostly talking about things which are specific to what autism is.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, you were talking about the positive aspects of autistic people only. Maybe it's hard to notice that, but it sounds almost like you think they are a better version of non-autistic people. From my perspective, that's not really how it is... :) Autism or not, people can have a lot of negative personality traits that make them a pain to be around.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe you are right. I'm thinking about the wrong kind of autistic people right now.

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in the process of being diagnosed as an adult, and I feel very validated as I relate to this very much.