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Hi everyone,

ever since I switched to Arch about two months ago, most applications segfault multiple times a day. There doesn't seem to be any pattern for the crashes, sometimes it's even happening while idling (e.g. reading a news article).

Things I've tried without any luck so far:

  • Running Firefox in safe-mode without any extensions
  • Switching from regular to LTS kernel
  • Disable Hardware Acceleration in Firefox
  • Change RAM speed and timings
  • Run Memtest successfully
  • Replace entire RAM with a new certified kit
  • Use only a single RAM slot
  • Apply Ryzen fixes (iommu=soft, limit c-states)
  • Use only a single CPU core (maxcpus=1)
  • Downgrade Nvidia driver to 535xx
  • Use Nouveau instead of the nvidia driver
  • Use Openbox instead of KDE
  • Disable zswap and THP

Here's full journalctl from a day where both Spotify and Firefox crashed at the end, a few seconds after each other:

https://pastebin.com/BH0LMnD9

Some more info about my system:

  • Ryzen 5 3600X
  • MSI B450M PRO-VDH Max
  • 32GB RAM @ 3200MHz
  • Geforce RTX 2070 SUPER (using nvidia-dkms)
  • Plasma 5.27.10 on X11

I'm pretty sure that it's not hardware related, because I've booted up a Debian 12 live image where everything ran for several hours without a crash. But it seems to be Arch related, as I also booted up a fresh EndeavourOS live image (so basically Arch), where applications also randomly segfaulted. Any idea why everything works fine on Debian but not on Arch? Debian uses the 6.1 kernel, which I already tried, so that's not it.

Let me know if you need any more information that might help solve this issue. Thanks!

Edit [solved]: It looks like disabling PBO in the UEFI/BIOS did the trick. The strange thing is, after enabling it again, it's still not crashing again. Someone suspected that the MoBo default/training settings were faulty, so I guess this was a very rare case here. That's probably why it took so long to find a solution. Thanks everyone for helping me out!

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[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I had a 3700x that was doing that sort of thing. It seemed mostly random, but moving big files would crash it pretty often. It ran memtest86 for 3 days no problem. I replaced part by part, and it ended up being the CPU. I'd bought it second hand so it may have been abused.

[–] NoisyFlake@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But if it's a faulty CPU, wouldn't it also crash on Debian?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wild guess, there could be differences in compilation optimization that expose this hypothetical proc defect on Arch but not on Debian. Try a day or two of mprime as some others suggested.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try a day or two of mprime as some others suggested.

That wouldn't necessarily reveal a faulty CPU or firmware. I used to have a 3600x that would sometimes crash on idle at low clocks but would run cinebench or geekbench all day and all night.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

For sure. It would catch a subset of issues.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I would think so, but it sounds similar enough with the symptoms and very similar on the model CPU so I thought I'd mention it

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