The vegan community is growing on the lemmyverse now at 110 registered users that makes a MAU of 69 (0.15%) of the 44.9k Lemmy userbase.
If we apply the 90-9-1 rule with rounding factored in, we would have 55 lurkers, 5 small contributors and 1 contributor.
Lemmy.vg has 39 users, 7 communities, 533 posts, 376 comments and 18 6mo active users. Started on 24-05-09.
Vegantheoryclub.org has 71 users, 13 communities, 1200 posts, 2500 comments and 51 6mo active users. Started on 24-04-10.
!vegan@lemmy.vg has 106 posts, 110 comments, 83 subscribers and 671 6mo visitiors.
!vegan@vegantheoryclub.org has 388 posts, 1300 comments, 310 subscribers and 2500 6mo visitors.
Here are the signup pages if you’re interested: Lemmy.vg and Vegantheoryclub.org both are anarchist.
Agree with this however I'm not vegan and don't want to take underserved credit for the effort it takes to make it a permanent change.
I'm heading down the path but still have a ways to go to the destination.
If everyone made an effort we'd live in a completely different world almost over night. At least as someone who cares about sustainability side of it, that's what matters. But I appreciate that veganism consists of a bunch of different forms of arguments and motivations.
This statement (about everyone single personal effort) only becomes meaningful when you take into consideration why people don't. If you do, you will encounter the dialectics of structure and "personal choice" and how complicated history is and how it is not at all about "everybody make a small change in their life".
The liberal feverdream of individual solutions for structural problems is bound to end up in "I buy good groceries".
And, eventhough veganism is a good thing to do, this is why I'm personally so annoyed by vegan communities.
I dont know if reducing your personal sin count or whatever is a substitute for radical critique and political action, or an add-on, so I didn't downvote. But maybe it explains some of it.
How are the corporations and governments going to change if one person doesn’t commit the first action of doing better and inspiring others to do the same. As people buy animal products in grocery stores and people vote in carnist political parties.
That’s a strawman because if you were paying attention you would notice that vegans are doing street outreach, disruptive protests and factory farm liberation to save the animal victims from immense suffering. They’re not simply buying “good groceries”
Universal suffrage, abolition and gay marriage didn’t just suddenly came out of thin air because corporations and governments decided to become nicer no it was it was the unsurmountable pressure by the people protesting for better treatment for all.
didn't you already try that
of course not. it was people advocating for their recognition as fully human
"Strawman" - and then you just go with "vegans"... so all? Most? Some? Or maybe just the tiniest percentage? I think you understand for wich ones my argument applies and how "strawman" doesn't, cause numbers. You know, if you pay attention..
Ok lets cut the rhetorics, I was trying to be sincere. I think you might wanna pay some more of that attention (omg sry I stop now) to "dialectic". This does explicitly not mean you can turn the thing around and solely look at the other side.
So of course no change ever happens if all those one persons don't do anything. But they will only change history if they change the underlying structures. To do so, they have to overcome their individualistic constriction and reach collective agency.
You gotta organize. The market won't do, since it is THE form of organization that makes everyone a single player. Both, in their acting and in their consciousness.