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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

thank god trump one and so now the genocide is all over.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No one forced the democrats to do this:

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

yeah its not like republicans tied ukraine aid to aid for israel or anything. /s

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this gets into a completely seperate thing. He could not give them it without congress but the US only very reluctantly restricts commerce. Its a very different thing to say im not going to fund your war and im not going to sell you stuff when dealing with a long time ally. And no you don't just throw away diplomatic relationships easily. If countries did they would have stopped having dealing with us in trumps first term.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Oh so you're telling me Biden had no choice. Ithe most powerful man in the world couldn't do anything but enable Israel and its genocide?

Oh that makes sense and doesn't fly in the face of reality at all. /s

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It would not have been impossible but it would have been problematic. I mean he could send troops with the war powers act. Its possible but not really something he could realistically do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Problematic to stop genocide? Reflect on what you just said, that's monstrous.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Cowbee I just want you to know I have you tagged as "comrade fighting the good fight" and stumbling upon your comments educating people always makes my day a bit better. That's all🙂🛠️

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Thank you, appreciate the kind words! I'm going to step away from Lemmy for a few days and touch grass, but I'll be back 🫡

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Maybe we shouldn't have supported Ukraine if it meant supporting genocide

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You seem very picky as to which genocide is ok.

The Russian land grab and physical and cultural genocide of Ukraine.

The Israeli land grab and physical and cultural genocide of Gaza/Palestine.

You can’t be absolutist about one and hand wave the other.

No purity for you.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The US is not currently causing the genocide in Ukraine.

The US has not spent 80 years covering for genocide in Ukraine.

The US has not spent 80 years being the attack dog of another nation commiting genocide in Ukraine.

I'm not in Russia. I was not born in Russia. I do not pay taxes to Russia.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago (35 children)

Thank goodness the Democrats perpetuated the genocide in Gaza so they wouldn't lose to Trump! 🤦

[–] Alice@beehaw.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yup. I don't understand why people are talking like Harris isn't also pro-genocide. Obviously more Americans are going to die under Trump and that's a tragedy too, but why are people pretending the election was about Palestine?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

The election was never about Palestine, ultimately the Dems lost of their own volition by running rightward with Liz Cheney. Rather than going with a safe win like ending support for genocide and running on a progressive platform, or even a Leftist platform (which the DNC would never do, for the record, even if it would win), they deliberately chose to lose to the reps. Their donors would rather have Trump than progressive Dems win.

More Americans would die under Harris as well. The US Empire is crumbling, even if Harris won that wouldn't stop that process, what's necessary is for the working class to get organized.

Meanwhile, Palestine burns and the Dems got away with it.

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